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    ANOTHER Stretch Mark Thread -- Need Your Help / Opinions

    Hey guys! What's going on? I guess I should get to the point [sorry in advance for the novel-length post]...

    I have been lifting on and off for about 2 1/2 years. I probably have only been serious about it, the past 1 1/2 years or so.

    I used to work-out 3 times a week, doing a full body workout with 3 sets of 10 reps and 1 exercise per muscle group. Somewhere about 6 months to a year ago, I got sick of not seeing any results and switched up my routine. I started lifting 5 days a week, seperating each day into a different muscle group. Lately, the past maybe 4 or 5 months, I have turned this into 4 days a week -- basically just getting rid of my leg day ( I know I know... Im an idiot... But I have serious knee problems and come up with good excuses ) Basically my routine now looks like:

    Day 1
    Flat Bench - 3 sets of 6
    Incline Bench - 3 sets of 6
    Day 2
    Dead Lifts - 3 sets of 6
    Lat Pulls - 3 sets of 6
    Bent DB Rows - 3 sets of 6
    Day 3
    Shoulder Press - 3 sets of 6
    DB Shrugs - 3 sets of 6
    Day 4
    Close Grip Bench Press - 3 sets of 6
    BB Curls - 3 sets of 6
    Tricep Push Downs - 3 sets of 6
    Incline DB Curls - 3 sets of 6

    Back to the point of this thread... Through lifting I have gotten small stretch marks, basically only on my biceps. They are really tiny white marks. I have heard many of you talk about them, and to me, they just were evidence of my growth. However, a few months ago, I noticed one that was a little larger and unusually red. Accompanying it, I also noticed that my arms were looking larger, so I just thought I had started growing more, thus a bigger mark. However, to my dismay, the mark has continued to get bigger and bigger. It has never really bothered me all that much, as I always just thought it was normal. I decided to show my mom one day and she did the motherly thing and flipped out. So she made a doctors appointment and to the general practitioner's we went. Basically, she said that it was definitely just a stretch mark, but not a NORMAL stretch mark, that normal stretch marks do not get that big. She then went on to question if I was lifting right or lifting too much weight. While I am no pro, I am certain I know how to perform the basic lifts I do. In addition, I am no super hero. Actually, I am a pretty big bitch when it comes to the amount of weights I do - for example, my bench sets are only at 170 and my BB curl sets are only at 75. This are definitely not amazing weights. She started suggesting that I go see a trainer who can design a propper schedule for me because obviously I am lifting too much or too hard. I have done a lot of research and have talked to many people. I am sure that I am not doing some unheard of type of routine or anything.

    Basically, I am stuck. I know weightlifting caused the mark, but I dont think I am doing anything wrong. After talking to the doctor, I basically feel like the only way to stop the mark from getting bigger is to stop lifting, which I do not want to do.

    Is this mark normal? Anythign I should be worrying about? What do you guys think?

    I am going to attach a few pictures so you can see what I am talking about.





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    Looks normal to me. Did your doctor give you this advice while she was eating a bag of Cheetos?

    Some people are more prone to stretch marks than others. Yours aren't anything to cry about. So make your choice and then move on.
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    Big Deal, its just a stretch mark, its not even that big. A tan and some nice lotion will cover it up niccely.

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    So she made a doctors appointment and to the general practitioner's we went. Basically, she said that it was definitely just a stretch mark, but not a NORMAL stretch mark, that normal stretch marks do not get that big. She then went on to question if I was lifting right or lifting too much weight. While I am no pro, I am certain I know how to perform the basic lifts I do. In addition, I am no super hero. Actually, I am a pretty big bitch when it comes to the amount of weights I do - for example, my bench sets are only at 170 and my BB curl sets are only at 75. This are definitely not amazing weights. She started suggesting that I go see a trainer who can design a propper schedule for me because obviously I am lifting too much or too hard.
    While I dont expect doctors to know EVERYTHING, they should at least have a basic understanding of exercising/lifting weights.

    It only seems logical that your stretch mark is bigger than "normal" when you are gaining more muscle mass than the average individual eating a surplus of calories.
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    I alwyas have at least 4 real big red ones on my pec-delt tie in. You're fine.
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    That's nothing, I look like my armpits were molested by a tiger.

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    Agreed, my biceps and back of my calves look like I was a knife victim.

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    change your routine too. i know im notthe only one who noticed

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    Oh yeah, youre routine is pretty bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloodninja
    That's nothing, I look like my armpits were molested by a tiger.
    Haha same here, though i like leopards more....so im saying i was molested by a leopard.

    Really though, your doctor is ******ed. Most doctors get out of medical school....go thru their internship and by the time they have their own practice they think they have learned it all. Fact of the matter is we have probably only scratched the surface of how our bodies work. Go to your doctor if you have something that they can cure. Having a big red stretchmark in an area that well....has been stretched using heavier than normal loads is extremely common as you can tell from this thread. If its red, it just means its new. As it gets older it will "silver" and be less noticeable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greathuskie
    change your routine too. i know im notthe only one who noticed
    Quote Originally Posted by ROMANMAN
    Oh yeah, youre routine is pretty bad.
    Well besides not doing legs, what would you guys suggest I do differently or change

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    lol bro I got a few in the same spot only bigger than that lol. Don't worry about it and don't listen to the doc. PHD man you gotta wonder sometimes...lol

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    I have some giant stretch marks all over my body. I have them on my love handles, stomach, arm pits, biceps, triceps, thighs and chest/deltoids.

    If you seen me, you would not be worried about your little marks! LOL, however, after time they go from red to white and sort of "heal" This can take many many years before they turn white, but when they do, they are barely visible.

    Someone said it best when it said it looked like a tiger mauled them, I can truly say that if we had a contest over who looks mauled the most, I would win! Not something that really bothers me (nor am I proud of them). All of them except for the love handles and belly were the results of hardcore lifting, so those I am proud of... But the belly ones were lazyness and nothing more.

    My largest stretch mark is about 4-5 inches long and about 1/4" wide across, but even if that isn't good enough to get an idea, imagine about 30-40 of those around my body...

    BTW, I don't want to sound mean, but your doctor is an ignorant of weightlifting. At the very least, she did the right thing and referred you to a trainer specialist.
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    another piece of evidence that shows your normal neighborhood practitioner has no idea about things outside the common cold etc. and yet still tries to pass by as though they do...like was stated above, some people are more prone to stretch marks, and the more muscle mass you gain the larger your stretch marks...you should see the ones on my groin area, they extend from right next to my nuts to halfway down my thigh...most are white so not too noticeable...
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    drop the curl jockey beach look routine and pick up a real bodybuilding routine ala WBB #1

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    Quote Originally Posted by greathuskie
    drop the curl jockey beach look routine and pick up a real bodybuilding routine ala WBB #1
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    Monday
    Flat BB Bench 2 x 8
    Incline DB Press 2 x 8
    DB Flys 2 x 8
    Chin-Ups 2 x 8
    Deadlifts 2 x 8
    Bent BB Rows 2 x 8
    BB Shrugs 1 x 10
    Tuesday
    Squats 2 x 8
    Hack Squats 2 x 8
    SLDLs 2 x 8
    Leg Curls 2 x 8
    Calf Raises 4 x 10
    Crunches 4 x 10
    Wednesday and Thursday
    Rest
    Friday
    Military Press 2 x 8
    Seated DB Shoulder Press 2 x 8
    DB Lateral Raises 2 x 10
    CGBP 2 x 8
    Lying Tricep Extension 2 x 8
    BB Curls 2 x 8
    DB Hammer Curls 1 x 8
    Saturday and Sunday
    Rest

    I just have a few questions. Any help you guys can offer would definitely be appreciated.

    Questions:
    1. How does this split look?
    2. For Close Grip Bench Press and Lying Tricep Extension (Skull Crushers), exactly how close together should my hands be?
    3. Although I may surprise myself, I do not know if I am going to be able to do 2 sets of 8 reps of my own bodyweight for chinups. Should I just go to failure for a set or two?
    4. For crunches, should I be doing weighted crunches?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harrison486
    Monday
    Flat BB Bench 2 x 8
    Incline DB Press 2 x 8
    DB Flys 2 x 8
    Chin-Ups 2 x 8
    Deadlifts 2 x 8
    Bent BB Rows 2 x 8
    BB Shrugs 1 x 10
    Tuesday
    Squats 2 x 8
    Hack Squats 2 x 8
    SLDLs 2 x 8
    Leg Curls 2 x 8
    Calf Raises 4 x 10
    Crunches 4 x 10
    Wednesday and Thursday
    Rest
    Friday
    Military Press 2 x 8
    Seated DB Shoulder Press 2 x 8
    DB Lateral Raises 2 x 10
    CGBP 2 x 8
    Lying Tricep Extension 2 x 8
    BB Curls 2 x 8
    DB Hammer Curls 1 x 8
    Saturday and Sunday
    Rest

    I just have a few questions. Any help you guys can offer would definitely be appreciated.

    Questions:
    1. How does this split look?
    2. For Close Grip Bench Press and Lying Tricep Extension (Skull Crushers), exactly how close together should my hands be?
    3. Although I may surprise myself, I do not know if I am going to be able to do 2 sets of 8 reps of my own bodyweight for chinups. Should I just go to failure for a set or two?
    4. For crunches, should I be doing weighted crunches?
    1. It's not a bad split. I don't particularly like the set/rep scheme and there are a few isolation type exercises I would get rid of.
    2. I would say at the widest shoulder width. I put my hands as close as it comfortable. My thumbs could easily touch.
    3. Assisted chins on a machine or with a chair under your feet to push on. (chair method is better.. don't help yourself on the way down)
    4. Yes. I personally prefer cable pulldowns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harrison486

    Questions:
    1. How does this split look?
    2. For Close Grip Bench Press and Lying Tricep Extension (Skull Crushers), exactly how close together should my hands be?
    3. Although I may surprise myself, I do not know if I am going to be able to do 2 sets of 8 reps of my own bodyweight for chinups. Should I just go to failure for a set or two?
    4. For crunches, should I be doing weighted crunches?

    1. alright, I'd stick with WBB how it is though... (you should do dips)
    2. CGBP maybe like 3-7 inches (im guessing), I use an ez curl bar for skulls, I just put my hands a little narrower than shoulder width
    3. Do what you can, and really push yourself, force that last couple reps out, eventually you'll probably be able to do 2x8
    4. Yes, you're abs are no different then other muscles... so why train them like a different muslce?
    Last edited by russ; 01-13-2006 at 04:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deeder
    1. It's not a bad split. I don't particularly like the set/rep scheme and there are a few isolation type exercises I would get rid of.
    Quote Originally Posted by russ
    alright, I'd stick with WBB how it is though... (you should do dips)
    Its basically WBB1 except I put DB flys instead of dips and I changed the rest schedule to fit my schedule when I go back to school.

    What would you guys change or do differently?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harrison486

    What would you guys change or do differently?
    dips.

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    looks just like the one i got

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    I think doing deads the day before legs sucks.

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    Okay, here are the new questions...

    1. What do you guys think I should do with the orders of the days (Chest/Back, Legs, and Shoulders/Arms)? I know at least one of you mentioned maybe deadlifts the day right before legs isn't such a good idea.
    2. Would dips really be that much better than DB Flys? I have just always had trouble doing dips, plus my form is a little off. I never knew the difference between a chest dip and a tricep dip
    3. Also, would kneeling cable crunches be an acceptable substitute for regular crunches?
    4. Any other exercises you think I should change?
    5. What type of rep and set scheme do you suggest? Or is the 2 x 8 for most exercises fine?

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