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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Deadlift 1RM difference (overhand vs mixed grip)

    For those of you who have an accurate idea because you actually tested this, what's the difference between your 1 rep max on conventional deadlifts using a) overhand grip, and b) mixed grip ?

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    The same for me - I could bang out additional reps w/ my 3-5RM, though, w/ mixed grip - but for 1rep, the same.

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    Mines quite a bit different as i cant get away with heavier weight on overhand grip i tend to loose the arch in my back
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    i owuld ahve trouble doing more than one rep with overhand grip at around 352 pouns. while i can over 600 pound with mixed grip.
    but i do not pratcise over hand grips with heavy weight. just use them on light warm ups.
    my exprience - joined gym 10 years ago, 6 1/2 years hard weight training exprience.

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    My overhand pull gives out wherever my grip can not hold on anymore. For me, this is around 285~295ish. Mixed grip currently takes me up to 365. I also use straps with my mixed grip, which helps me fire out a few more reps. I find that with overhand, the bar likes to try and roll out and force my fingers open, even with straps on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by body
    i owuld ahve trouble doing more than one rep with overhand grip at around 352 pouns. while i can over 600 pound with mixed grip.
    but i do not pratcise over hand grips with heavy weight. just use them on light warm ups.

    That's quite a difference - 248 lbs?

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    Well, let's just put it this way...when I go really heavy, my grip will half of the time just barely hang on long enough. The other half of the time, my grip will be slipping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bubba booey
    That's quite a difference - 248 lbs?
    probably about that then.

    The bars have really poor grip. so it slide out my fingers.
    i get a bigger weight off the gorund, but it would start sliding out my hands so i have trouble with locking out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ufc2005
    For those of you who have an accurate idea because you actually tested this, what's the difference between your 1 rep max on conventional deadlifts using a) overhand grip, and b) mixed grip ?

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    I think my best 1RM on DL w. an overhand grip is around 340 - after that, the bar will slip out of my hands. My best DL in competition is 480 w. a mixed grip. With a mixed grip, grip is never an issue for me, even when doing rack pulls w. 500+.

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    So do you guys do your working sets with mixed or overhand grip? Which would you recommend? Im just going for mass, and ive never tried mixed. I read on here that some guy tore his bicep doing that, so i havent tried it. Does it straighten your back more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RBC13
    So do you guys do your working sets with mixed or overhand grip? Which would you recommend? Im just going for mass, and ive never tried mixed. I read on here that some guy tore his bicep doing that, so i havent tried it. Does it straighten your back more?
    For training, do as many sets as possible with an overhand grip. Switch to a mixed grip when necessary, and alternate mix-ed-ness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RBC13
    So do you guys do your working sets with mixed or overhand grip? Which would you recommend? Im just going for mass, and ive never tried mixed. I read on here that some guy tore his bicep doing that, so i havent tried it. Does it straighten your back more?

    mixed grip if using chalk only
    Do overhand grip if you gto straps.
    my exprience - joined gym 10 years ago, 6 1/2 years hard weight training exprience.

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    I do overhand for all my sets, until it gets too weak to continue. Then, I switch to mixed. If I do several reps with mixed, I'll switch up the inverted hand since I tend to feel additional pressure in my back on the inverted side. I don't use straps or chalk at this point, so I can't comment on them.

    I've pulled 300 pairly easy with standard grip. I've pulled 300 for ten reps with mixed grip. I've pulled a very easy 335 with a mixed grip. I really have no idea what my gap would be, though.
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    I just always use a mixed grip. Grip was never really a problem for me, though. I can hold onto 500+ for 6-8rep sets on shrugs without any grip problem at all. I'm guessing if I used an oh grip it would fail somewhere between 315 and 365 after like 4 deadlifts.
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