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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    eek... it's lil' Fixation! fixationdarknes's Avatar
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    "Press"

    When Oly lifters refer to the "Press," are they referring to a strict military press or a push press (using leg drive to accelerate the bar)? I mean, apparently some of them do singles of the "Press" somewhere in the 400-lb. range. So, I'm thinking it's probably a Push Press but I want confirmation.
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    Age: 20, Height: 5'7", Weight: 165, Deadlift: 405, 9.5" Squat: 230 x 10, Bench: 195 (3x5)

    Quote Originally Posted by fatrb38
    I try to visualize that my girlfriend is under the weight and I have to push the weight up to save her. Of course it doesn't work and I just laugh as I think about the weight slowly crushing her bones. Then I remember it's me under the weight and give 200% effort to push it back up.

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    I'd imagine it's anything legal that gets the bar overhead.
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    They are referring to an overhead press without a jerk. It's not specific how much backward lean or leg drive they are using, but it is not a military press.

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    An earlier olympic lift was the clean and press, which was a clean and strict overhead military press. The style regressed into an extreme leaning back and almost a bench press (the "Russian style") and it was replaced with the clean and jerk. Alexyev pressed over 500lbs in this fasion.



    In what context was "press" used?

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    eek... it's lil' Fixation! fixationdarknes's Avatar
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    There really was no context, but here is where I saw it.

    The three heavy weights on the “One lift a day:”
    Joe Dube-Olympic Team Member-Heavyweight Class
    Olympic Tryouts-462 Press, 336 Snatch, 468 Clean and Jerk, 1267 Total

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    Press: 135 for 5, 135 for 5, 225 for 3, 295 for 2, 355 for 2, 405 for 2, 425 for 2


    So my original assumption appears to be correct. Something like a Push Press.
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    Age: 20, Height: 5'7", Weight: 165, Deadlift: 405, 9.5" Squat: 230 x 10, Bench: 195 (3x5)

    Quote Originally Posted by fatrb38
    I try to visualize that my girlfriend is under the weight and I have to push the weight up to save her. Of course it doesn't work and I just laugh as I think about the weight slowly crushing her bones. Then I remember it's me under the weight and give 200% effort to push it back up.

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    Well, that's kind of what it turned into (according to accounts). An extremely fast push press. But that's a perversion of what it was supposed to be. Originally the oly press was done in the strict manner. I think they dropped the Press from comps in 76? Check out those links going around... there's tons of good info.
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