Would these be sufficient to use instead of BB Squats? Last time I did BB squats my shoulder dislocated. The combination of the weight of the bar on my shoulders and my albows being cocked back behind my back (which put the shoulder in optimum position to come out the way it does) just made it slip out of socket easily and then it's a trip to the emergency room because nobody can seem to get the damn thing back in without drugs to relax the muscles...
So would these be just as good?
It sounds like you need to learn how to squat. First, the bar should be low on your traps. I'm not quite sure how it would dislocate your shoulder unless you have a medical condition. Second, your elbows should not be behind your back. That will encourage leaning forward which is a no no.
If you still can't squat with these two modifications, you could do the exercises you listed. Look into zercher squats as well.
I do have a condition where my shoulder dislocates. Surgery didn't help even. I can yawn and stretch and it comes out. On one occasion, I sneezed while cooking and pop! It came out. It wasn't the first time it came out when I was doing squats... It had come out about 20 times before then. It has gotten a lot better since I've been training and built more muscle up around it.
While I agree that I didn't have the form down perfectly for the squat, the weight being pushed down on that area is enough to force it out. It sucks... I hate it. However, I need to do squats.
Last edited by intargc; 11-01-2005 at 09:11 AM.
I'm wondering if you'll have the same problem holding weight in your hand.
You should look into surgery. Guy on my hockey team had his shoulder dislocate so easily that just putting on the pads could do it. He went in, had surgery (lost a season) and now he is right as rain. Just a thought.
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Anthony: No, it won't because my arm isn't in as awkward a position as it is by holding the bar steady on my back/shoulders. Fortuantely, I just have to be careful on how my arm is positioned. Even having my elbows straight, it still tucks the shoulder back and exposes it for dislocation with the added weight. When the arm is down or straight forward, it's not as vulnerable. Trust me here... I've literally had it dislocated 20 times now. I know exactly what makes it pop out.
Miker: Surgery helps some people, but not all. It didn't help me, it didn't help my father and it also didn't help my good friend. Yes, I know a lot of people that have their shoulders dislocated. I don't want to go do it again... Afterwards it's 6 weeks with my arm taped to my chest and I'm a programmer and it's about impossible to write code all day with one hand and it's even more impossible to bench with one hand.
I would not be working out without a shoulder brace on in your condition. Have you tried squats on the Smith machine? You would barely need to use your arms at all.
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I haven't tried squats on the smith yet. I've always stayed away from the Smith machine because it always seemed to not be such a natural movement for me. If that would be better than doing DB Squats or Hack Squats, I can try that...