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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Ideal ratio for barbell lifts...

    What's the ideal ratio for these lifts at 1RM?

    Bench Press : Squats
    Bench Press : Standing Military Presses
    Bench Press : Deadlifts
    Standing Military Presses : Barbell Curls
    Upright Rows : Bent-Over Rows
    Standing Military Presses : Upright Rows


    And what's your personal ratio?

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    There is none. Everyone is different!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BG5150
    There is none. Everyone is different!
    :withstupi

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    yes, as there is no perfect body, but something that go as close to that as possible... and that is ideal... i'm not looking forward to get something precise, just i'd like to know what's the ratio for these lifts among people with good bodies

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    Jay,

    I am assuming you are asking what are reasonable ranges for those ratios, to ensure proper balance among major muscle groups (legs, chest and back). I'm not sure what those are ratios are, but there is a proper range to ensure proper balance b/w antagonistic muscle movement patterns (ie vertical pull/push, hor pull/push, etc.)

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    what i'm asking is what would a balanced body lift in those exercises... more or less...

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    bp:sq:dl
    very respectable - 1.5*weight : 2.0 * weight : 2.0 * weight
    elite - 2.0 * weight : 3.0 * weight : 3.0 * weight
    bests:
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    Quote Originally Posted by dw06wu
    bp:sq:dl
    very respectable - 1.5*weight : 2.0 * weight : 2.0 * weight
    elite - 2.0 * weight : 3.0 * weight : 3.0 * weight
    dw, the only thing I disagree w/ is that IMO, the deads numbers should be > than squats numbers.

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    bodyweight is weight isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DNL
    bodyweight is weight isn't it?
    yes

    Quote Originally Posted by Pats Fan
    dw, the only thing I disagree w/ is that IMO, the deads numbers should be > than squats numbers.
    Maybe a little. I didn't mean that they had to be exact. This would be in fantasy land.
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    3/4/5. 300 bench, 400 squat, 500 DL and you're set.

    D 435 / S 340 / B 305

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beast
    3/4/5. 300 bench, 400 squat, 500 DL and you're set.
    That sounds reasonable.

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    Jay:

    Look in the mirror! That's all you need. If you think you are well proportioned, it won't matter wheter your bench-to-squat ratio sucks or is great. If you think your legs look skinny compared to your back or chest, work those legs more! If you have Herculean thighs but tiny biceps, do more rows or chins.

    man, how people over-quantify things!
    There are no stupid questions, just stupid people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BG5150
    Jay:

    Look in the mirror! That's all you need. If you think you are well proportioned, it won't matter wheter your bench-to-squat ratio sucks or is great. If you think your legs look skinny compared to your back or chest, work those legs more! If you have Herculean thighs but tiny biceps, do more rows or chins.

    man, how people over-quantify things!

    BG - balance is important to prevent injury. I agree you don't need hard numbers, but I guess for some people it helps.

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    it's just out of interest... tell me your ratios, if you don't know the ideal ones

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beast
    3/4/5. 300 bench, 400 squat, 500 DL and you're set.
    I was pretty excited until I realized we were talking about IRM.
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