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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    I was not so well yesterday so I skipped my upper body. That will be done tonight. LATE. I have to work until 8 god damn PM, so I will not be able to hit the gym until 9 and that'll be without dinner...
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    You know, you don't have to workout. A little bit more rest might do the body good. Some food too. Save it for later. Your body will thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HomeYield
    You know, you don't have to workout. A little bit more rest might do the body good. Some food too. Save it for later. Your body will thank you.
    Meh, I take 2-3 days off at a time on occasion I'll have you know.

    I need it to feel good about me. Body dysmorphia is super fun.
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    Shave my ass and call me a bodybuilder:

    BB Bench
    barx20
    135x12
    185x10
    235x10
    235x9
    235x8
    235x8
    225x8
    225x8

    Pullups SS w/ Skullcrushers
    BWx10.......80x10
    BWx8.........80x10
    BWx6.........80x10
    BWx6.........80x10
    BWx6.........80x10

    I stayed light on everything and got a super gay pump.
    Credulous at best
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustinASU
    Shave my ass and call me a bodybuilder:

    BB Bench
    barx20
    135x12
    185x10
    235x10
    235x9
    235x8
    235x8
    225x8
    225x8

    Pullups SS w/ Skullcrushers
    BWx10.......80x10
    BWx8.........80x10
    BWx6.........80x10
    BWx6.........80x10
    BWx6.........80x10

    I stayed light on everything and got a super gay pump.
    I'm all about getting a super gay pump. Sounds like you had a sub-par day yesterday. How you been feeling overall?
    Best way to cheat on deadlifts...

    Stand there for a few minutes, then pace back and forth a lot, huff and puff, wait until everybody's looking. Approach the bar. Back off. Approach it again. Back off. Get some water. Chalk up. Approach the bar again. Then spray some more chalk around. Wait until people start losing interest. When nobody's looking, pick it a little off the floor, and slam it down. Jump up and yell "LIGHT WEIGHT BABY". Then give high fives all around. - Belial

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Nissen
    I'm all about getting a super gay pump. Sounds like you had a sub-par day yesterday. How you been feeling overall?
    Tim -- Thanks for the concern. I have actually been feeling much better in the injury/lower back/flexibility department as of late. While this is a good thing, I'm so frustrated with not being able to lift heavy. I am doing everything in my mental power to prevent myself from lifting heavy singles. I haven't squat or deadlifted over 500 in months and I'm itching to try. I know if I do that and abandon my current program and this injury recovery and conditioning I have been so dilligently working on will be shot to hell. I used to loooove "the pump" and bodybuilding in general, but once strength training got into my blood there was no looking back. Unfortunately I never understood the concept of periodization, flexibility, mobility, or conditioning. All I knew was lift big and eat big. It's not that simple. Now I'm having to overcompensate for the concepts I mentioned above since the imbalances and injuries are so prevalent that my lifts stagnated. In short, I'm frustrated, though I know this will be good for me in the end. Years from now, when I'm pulling 800 and squatting the same, I'm sure I will look back on this as a learning experience. As for now--this ****ing sucks my atrophied left testicle.
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    Nice "light" effort. BTW, have I ever told you I hate your strength?
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    Still doing the warm-ups and stretching?
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    CP Multiple times.


    Will Yessir. 'Cept for the last upper workout because I was strapped for time. I'm totally going for a light/stretching workout tonight. My frequency is so little at this point, I'm starting to have the body of a 10 year old girl. You're just trying to make me small and weak aren't you? I'm on to you baldy...


    Maybe if you lifted with me more I'd be more apt to do this crap
    Last edited by JustinASU; 12-08-2005 at 04:43 PM.
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    well you can take heart justin, in that your light work is way more then even my max

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    I may never be able to deadlift again. I really do need some good input on this. If you recall, I had a thread over a month ago about how I took two weeks off from the gym, came back, and tried to deadlift. I made it up to 405 before experiencing an extreme weak/burning pain in my lower back that seems to go down into my hips and legs somewhat. This is what caused me to layoff leg days and eventually revamp my entire training as is evident in my journal here.

    So after a month and a half of not touching deadlift and focusing more on flexibility and high rep work, I tried deadlifting yesterday. For the record, I did not go ANY higher than 225 which should be feather weight for me. I felt the same pain I was feeling at 405 at this weight. It seems like time off is making things worse. When I first got the pain I hadn't lifted for 2 weeks. Now that I've been off of deadlifting for almost 2 months and off of heavy lifting for 1 month, the pain seems to have gotten worse when deadlifting. What the hell is going on? I know I need to see a doc, but I dont have health insurance quite yet....I need some ideas here people.
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    *I* have the body of a ten-year old girl and the X chromosomes to prove it.

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    me: I could never figure out what people were talking about
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    Bodyweight today was 257. For some reason I feel tiny though.


    So because I was depressed about the failed deadlift day, I had me a bit of a cheat weekend. I still kept the weights sub maximal by a good bit, but this is something I needed to do.

    Saturday - Legs


    Squats - I warmed up with high bar olys and worked up to some PL stance


    High bar Olys:
    barx20
    95x20
    135x10
    185x10
    225x10

    PL Stance:
    275x8
    315x5 for 5 sets
    **These actually did not hurt the back injury in the slightest. The only discomfort I had was in my hips because they were not used to the wide stance.

    GHRs
    BWx10
    BWx10
    BWx12
    BWx12
    BWx15
    **May be time to add weight here

    DB Shrugs
    85x15
    100x12
    110x12
    120x10
    130x10
    110x15


    Sunday - Upper


    BB Bench

    *I can go a lot heavier here, but I had no spotter and I wasn't trying to kill myself

    barx20
    95x15
    135x12
    185x10
    225x8
    275x5 for 3 sets

    Pullups - I mixed Neutral grip with underhand
    **Really trying to focus on pulling my chest to the bar instead of my head over the bar
    BWx10
    BWx8
    BWx6
    BWx6
    BWx5
    BWx5
    BWx5

    Incline DB Press
    *Kept these light
    85x10 for 4 sets

    Close grip pulldowns
    170x10 for 4 sets

    Machine Chest flys SS with Rear Delt Flys

    195x15.........................105x10
    225x12.........................115x10

    And that's it. Not a bad couple of sessions. I still need input on the deadlift issue. My squats seem to not be bothering this back injury, but I can barely deadlift....
    Last edited by JustinASU; 12-11-2005 at 06:30 PM.
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    good looking workout. I need to learn how to do GHR's, they look like good stuff.
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    How long until you're insured, Big Ass?
    I think it's doctor time bro. Sorry.
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    If you can squat but not pull, I bet the issue is related to compression of the spine in the squat versus some sort of stretch in the pull.

    Have you done any non-chest supported rowing (t-bar, bb row)? What about SLDL versus deads?

    And, I would recommend a fairly complete second warmup before PL-style squats, even after a full session of oly. As you noticed, the hips ain't ready. But more to the point, you should warm up your erectors better.

    Of course, I'm talking completely out of my uneducated ass.

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    I won't be posting for a while. I was just released from the hospital because I was in a serious car accident. Neck injuries, broken hand, cuts to the head, etc. No more car either

    Suffice to say there will not be lifting in my forseeable future.
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    Dam justin, Get better soon man and dnt forget a good pct
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustinASU
    I won't be posting for a while. I was just released from the hospital because I was in a serious car accident. Neck injuries, broken hand, cuts to the head, etc. No more car either

    Suffice to say there will not be lifting in my forseeable future.
    Well- think about it this way bro, as long as you can figure out a way with the broken hand, you'll get much more WoW time now.

    Give me a call later if you feel up to it bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustinASU
    I won't be posting for a while. I was just released from the hospital because I was in a serious car accident. Neck injuries, broken hand, cuts to the head, etc. No more car either

    Suffice to say there will not be lifting in my forseeable future.
    **** man, that sucks. I feel for you Justin. Heal up bro!
    Best way to cheat on deadlifts...

    Stand there for a few minutes, then pace back and forth a lot, huff and puff, wait until everybody's looking. Approach the bar. Back off. Approach it again. Back off. Get some water. Chalk up. Approach the bar again. Then spray some more chalk around. Wait until people start losing interest. When nobody's looking, pick it a little off the floor, and slam it down. Jump up and yell "LIGHT WEIGHT BABY". Then give high fives all around. - Belial

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    Wish you well always Justin!!...hope the doc will give you a clean bill of health, the sooner the better.

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    Damn that sucks. Good luck getting better.

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    Heal quick!

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    I think I'm addicted to percocet.

    Thanks for your well wishes and concerns.
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    Ugh dude. I hated percocet. There are two weeks of my life that I simply don't remember because of that ****.
    How about a run-down on the injuries and their respective statuses?

    Get better soon, bro.
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