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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    2500 calories? How?

    I don't see how I'm gonna be able to eat that much. I'm a big kid as it is, I've never tracked how many calories I take in, but I'm pretty sure its under 2500. So...how would eatin more, actually help me lose fat and help cut myself?

    For breakast I don't usually have anything but a bottle of water
    Lunch is a sandwich, ham cheese and turkey, more water and small snack, maybe chips
    And Dinner is usually rice, beans, and some kind of meat.

    So, is eating more calories actually gonna help? If so then what should I eat so I won't get more weight? Anyone have a link or somethin where I can see a good diet to follow?
    Age: 17
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    Weight: 275
    Lifting: Little more than 1 Year

    Completely reforming my technique, especially my squat.

    Maxes: Forget about that for quite a while.

    Goal: Lose 30 lbs by March? Doesn't look very good right now.

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    Follow Built's advice, 2500 calories is nothing, I think you will be surprised if you track EVERYTHING that goes in your mouth through the day. (Count liquids too!)
    Today was a cheat day and I ate "normal" food and racked up 5200 calories not even really cheating that much... Special K, milk, spaghetti, Kraft Dinner, a sandwich and a few snacks and suddenly it was 5200 calories.

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    dude....2500 calories is easy to make...footlong oven roasted chicken breast with nothing on it at subway is 600 right there. and things like Milk,pasta and beans are just full of calories
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    Calories Eaten Today
    source grams cals %total
    Total: 1668
    Fat: 40 357 23%
    Sat: 14 130 8%
    Poly: 8 72 5%
    Mono: 14 128 8%
    Carbs: 246 916 58%
    Fiber: 17 0 0%
    Protein: 77 308 20%
    Alcohol: 0 0 0%


    Dahm...that's alot of carbs...
    Age: 17
    Height: 6'4
    Weight: 275
    Lifting: Little more than 1 Year

    Completely reforming my technique, especially my squat.

    Maxes: Forget about that for quite a while.

    Goal: Lose 30 lbs by March? Doesn't look very good right now.

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    Yea, after puttin that in and seeing how many cals it is, it doesn't seem like alot at all. But how is me eating more cals gonna help. But looking at that I deffinetly need to cut back on carbs...what should I aim towards eating then?
    Age: 17
    Height: 6'4
    Weight: 275
    Lifting: Little more than 1 Year

    Completely reforming my technique, especially my squat.

    Maxes: Forget about that for quite a while.

    Goal: Lose 30 lbs by March? Doesn't look very good right now.

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    you need more protein and waayyy more fat. try to triple the protein and fat intake and cut the carbs by 75% or so

    i think the problem you have is probably metabolic.. considering youre caloric intake is lower than mine..youre eating so little that your metabolism is probably crawling..

    edit..
    the more you eat the bigger and stronger you muslces can get
    this in turn speeds up your metabolism, helping drop fat.

    if you go on a deficit this low youre going to eat away at muscle
    Last edited by tigo; 11-20-2005 at 05:41 PM.
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    2500 cals?? i have that by 10AM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Votorx
    Calories Eaten Today
    source grams cals %total
    Total: 1668
    Fat: 40 357 23%
    Sat: 14 130 8%
    Poly: 8 72 5%
    Mono: 14 128 8%
    Carbs: 246 916 58%
    Fiber: 17 0 0%
    Protein: 77 308 20%
    Alcohol: 0 0 0%


    Dahm...that's alot of carbs...
    No, it's not
    Quote Originally Posted by Votorx
    But looking at that I deffinetly need to cut back on carbs
    How can you say that you don't think eating more will help you cut fat, but then claim that you need to cut carbs? I don't think you know your body well enough.
    Last edited by Slim Schaedle; 11-20-2005 at 06:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Votorx
    So, is eating more calories actually gonna help? Anyone have a link or somethin where I can see a good diet to follow?
    I'll put this into perspective somewhat...I weigh 65 lbs less than you and I eat more than double the amount of your carbs and about 5 times your protein and I'm still cutting fat. That's not a scientific answer, but it will do for now.
    Last edited by Slim Schaedle; 11-20-2005 at 06:11 PM.

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    So whats the suggested amount of calories one should take in? I thought I was doing good at around 3.6k today lol..now I read others doing 5k.
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    However many calories YOU need depends on your body.

    If you're getting the results you want, you're good.

    If not, change.

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    So I should eat more to raise my metabolism then? Cut the carbs and more calories?
    Age: 17
    Height: 6'4
    Weight: 275
    Lifting: Little more than 1 Year

    Completely reforming my technique, especially my squat.

    Maxes: Forget about that for quite a while.

    Goal: Lose 30 lbs by March? Doesn't look very good right now.

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    Nobody can tell you what your body needs, other than some generalities like "eat enough protein" and "eat enough fat".

    Monitor your food, see what happens to your body.

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    It sounds like you are not willing to put in the effort to make an educated decision, and want "the answer" to your weightloss dilema. You need to learn your body and how it reacts to food i.e. your maintenance calories, how macronutrient manipulation affects YOU. A little bit of effort on your part will do loads more for you than getting the anwers from the diet gurus in this forum.

    You are a big guy, it sounds like you are not eating enough, but that is an assumption, but I do not know you. It sounds like you are not getting enough protein of healthy fats, again an assumption, but then again I do not know you.

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    lol, if I had the time I would be more than willing to make the effort. But I don't, which is why I'm tryin hard to find a pretty quick solution for a good diet. I'm tryin to lose this weight and get cut before March but it doesn't look like its going to happen. I do happen to have a very slow metabolism and probably do undereat seeing as I don't have breakast .
    Age: 17
    Height: 6'4
    Weight: 275
    Lifting: Little more than 1 Year

    Completely reforming my technique, especially my squat.

    Maxes: Forget about that for quite a while.

    Goal: Lose 30 lbs by March? Doesn't look very good right now.

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    I want a quick solution, too.

    And magic beans.

    Lemme know when you find 'em - I want to get in on that deal!

    Hon, you want what we all want.

    Sadly, it doesn't exist.

    Do your research, track your food on fitday. We all have to do this. You're not so special.



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    OK here is the generic answer.

    IF you have a slow metabolism you should eat 12 cals per lb of bodyweight. Minimum of 1g of protein and 0.5g of fat per lb of bodyweight, fill in the rest with watever you want. So for you:

    3060 calories, 255 g protein, 128 g of fat, and 222 g of carbs.

    If is works great, if it doesn't then you are back to square one. Good luck

    Dont forget to eat your veggies and your magic beans.
    Last edited by DoUgL@S; 11-20-2005 at 07:14 PM.

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    ahh yes, but ya can't blame me for trying. lol do you think i'll have enough time to track my food, come up with a good diet and get cut before March?
    Last edited by Votorx; 11-20-2005 at 07:14 PM.
    Age: 17
    Height: 6'4
    Weight: 275
    Lifting: Little more than 1 Year

    Completely reforming my technique, especially my squat.

    Maxes: Forget about that for quite a while.

    Goal: Lose 30 lbs by March? Doesn't look very good right now.

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    Aight thanks douglas I'll try that out, and hopefully it'll work
    Age: 17
    Height: 6'4
    Weight: 275
    Lifting: Little more than 1 Year

    Completely reforming my technique, especially my squat.

    Maxes: Forget about that for quite a while.

    Goal: Lose 30 lbs by March? Doesn't look very good right now.

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    255 grams of protein...yeah I'm kinda off
    Age: 17
    Height: 6'4
    Weight: 275
    Lifting: Little more than 1 Year

    Completely reforming my technique, especially my squat.

    Maxes: Forget about that for quite a while.

    Goal: Lose 30 lbs by March? Doesn't look very good right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Votorx
    So I should eat more to raise my metabolism then? Cut the carbs and more calories?
    Why are you so concerned with carbohydrate elimination?

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    Because I want to lose weight, and shouldn't I have less carbs to do that?
    Age: 17
    Height: 6'4
    Weight: 275
    Lifting: Little more than 1 Year

    Completely reforming my technique, especially my squat.

    Maxes: Forget about that for quite a while.

    Goal: Lose 30 lbs by March? Doesn't look very good right now.

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