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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Deadlifts Safe for everyweek

    hello,
    My question is-
    Is it safe to do deadlifts everyweek?

    the reason i ask is because i see program were it says to only do dead lifts everyother week. Is this true or can i do them everyweek?


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    Quote Originally Posted by pbfreak9999
    hello,
    My question is-
    Is it safe to do deadlifts everyweek?

    Thanks,
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    yes.

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    ok thanks

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    you'll be fine. but maxing out on deadlifts every week isnt optimal unless your a powerlifter.

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    It's not optimal when you're a powerlifter either...
    "I added some db curls with the pink weights for a bit of a burn." - Rookiebldr

    "im assuming the holy (big) 3 are: curls, bench, legs?" - Saggas

    "had a huge ass burn on my triceps while I was doing those kickbacks, so they'll likely be staying with my exercise program." - Zearoth

    "most of my burned calories coming from something called Basal. Wtf does a leaf have to do with any of it?" - Votorx

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    I usually do regular deadlift every other week and rackpull in between.

    The week i do rack pull, i also do heavy STDL. The week i do regular deadlift, i do high-foot-placement Leg Press

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadian Crippler
    It's not optimal when you're a powerlifter either...
    so you think powerlifters dont do sets of 2-3reps when they deadlift?

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    In some PL routines, the DL is only done once every couple of weeks with the rest of the time spent on assistance lifts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtteg_x
    so you think powerlifters dont do sets of 2-3reps when they deadlift?
    They don't use maximal weights every week you goon. Most use some sort periodization method that only has them maxing once every 4-12 weeks depending on the program.

    Show me ONE (competitive) powerlifter who maxes more than once a month.
    Last edited by Canadian Crippler; 11-14-2005 at 09:25 AM.
    "I added some db curls with the pink weights for a bit of a burn." - Rookiebldr

    "im assuming the holy (big) 3 are: curls, bench, legs?" - Saggas

    "had a huge ass burn on my triceps while I was doing those kickbacks, so they'll likely be staying with my exercise program." - Zearoth

    "most of my burned calories coming from something called Basal. Wtf does a leaf have to do with any of it?" - Votorx

    "We have a lot of people like that on our campus, all hippies and things, that go around preaching against corporations, jocks, preps, accountants, and anyone else that feels the need to shower more than occasionally." - Shankerr

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    You can do deads everyweek, but don't do low reps every week. I would alternate high reps/low reps. Another option is to alternate deads and BB rows every week.
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    I really do not think deads and BB Rows hit enough of the same muscle groups to be subbed for one another. I'd say alternating deads with good mornings would be more appropriate.
    "I added some db curls with the pink weights for a bit of a burn." - Rookiebldr

    "im assuming the holy (big) 3 are: curls, bench, legs?" - Saggas

    "had a huge ass burn on my triceps while I was doing those kickbacks, so they'll likely be staying with my exercise program." - Zearoth

    "most of my burned calories coming from something called Basal. Wtf does a leaf have to do with any of it?" - Votorx

    "We have a lot of people like that on our campus, all hippies and things, that go around preaching against corporations, jocks, preps, accountants, and anyone else that feels the need to shower more than occasionally." - Shankerr

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadian Crippler
    I really do not think deads and BB Rows hit enough of the same muscle groups to be subbed for one another. I'd say alternating deads with good mornings would be more appropriate.
    I disagree - conventional deads and good mornings are not interchangeable. However, I do think if you do alot of deads, you can get away with limited volume on rows (but not the other way around).

    Conventional deads are not only fine every week, I even think twice per week is fine, as long as volume and intensity is in check. For example, a 5x5 day, all same weight, then a day working up to a 3RM, is fine.

    Another alternative is to do heavy deads once per week, and power cleans another.
    Last edited by Pats Fan; 11-14-2005 at 10:26 AM.

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    2 deadlift sessions each week? What do you do for your hammies? I don't know how my body can afford conventional deadlift twice a week and still manage to do STDL to hit the hammies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DNL
    2 deadlift sessions each week? What do you do for your hammies? I don't know how my body can afford conventional deadlift twice a week and still manage to do STDL to hit the hammies.
    I think of the dead as a full body lift - no problem doing it twice per week - sometimes I do power cleans one day, deads another, or deads both days. I also squat three days per week - on the day I don't dead or powerclean, I do RDLs and bulgarian split squats - I perform three full body sessions per week - about an hour or so each - so plenty of time to fit it all in.

    Also, conventional deads hit hammies, as well as the rest of the posterior chain. So, w/ deads and/or power cleans twice per week, all I need is a few sets of RDLs and I'm good to go.
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    I deadlift every week. But I only go for max-effort deadlifts every 6 or 7 weeks. Seems to work for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsethmeister
    I deadlift every week. But I only go for max-effort deadlifts every 6 or 7 weeks. Seems to work for me.

    I always leave 1-2 reps in the bag in every set.

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    i deadlift heavy twice a week. my CNS can handle it, today i only moved 315 for a 4X4 (though oddly enough 315 is also my all time 1 RM from before i lost most of my strength, so i was almost amazed to pull it even though ive been adding weight like crazy latley). another hundred lbs or when im not bulking and things could be a little different, but your body can handle plenty of dl'ing (and squatting, i do that 2X weekly as well with the same rep scheme, but my squat is low weight from all the time i didnt squat, if both had been well trained and i hadnt had all the plateauing and backsliding id never be able to handle it, but the moral of the story is to milk the crap out of your noob gains which is basically what im getting now.)

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    i do sldls and normal deadlifts, so far it seems to be handleing it, thanks for the quick replys

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    Not to steal your thread, but is it safe to do 3rep sets every week? I do WU then 8 then 5 then 3.

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    i would think so. unless your really realy elite level powerlifter moving several hundred lbs and sustaining a lot of fatigue from that sort of thing, but then you would already know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DNL
    2 deadlift sessions each week? What do you do for your hammies? I don't know how my body can afford conventional deadlift twice a week and still manage to do STDL to hit the hammies.
    Hmm intesting. You do know that deads work primarily the hamstring and lower back. I think you mean quads here(the front part of your thigh) Thats where squats come in.
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    I do 4-6rep deadlifts every week and I've made great progress. I will say, though, that I do see a lot of progress when I skip a week of heavy deadlifting, too. So maybe go 3 weeks and take the 4th off if you are doing maximal weights.
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    PBFreak.. as you can see, there are a lot of opinions on DLs...
    The one thing that is consistant.. is that DLs can be done every week.. 4 sure..

    After that, you have to determine what is best for your structure and your goals...
    Experiment with some of the different suggestions above...
    Use different programs every 4-6 weeks..
    After about 6 months, you should be able to determine what is best for you...

    Or you may find out that variety is the best for you..
    It's what I have found successfull over the years..
    Some weeks.. twice - 1 heavy 1 light..
    Some weeks.. once - heavy.. with a cycle of maxs every 3-4 weeks..
    some weeks.. it's 4 sets of 15 reps..
    etc.. etc...

    Good luck...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RBC13
    Hmm intesting. You do know that deads work primarily the hamstring and lower back. I think you mean quads here(the front part of your thigh) Thats where squats come in.
    Well do a search and tell me what are the primary muscle for conventional dead and STDL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DNL
    Well do a search and tell me what are the primary muscle for conventional dead and STDL.

    Conventional deads work the entire posterior chain - which includes the hammies, as well as the lower back up through the traps and rhomboids - the entire erector spinae. They also hit the quads fairly hard - given that you begin from a parallel squat position, there is no way the quads can not come into play.

    RDLs and SLDLs work mainly the hammies and lower back.

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