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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Toughest Man in the World Bruise Brubaker's Avatar
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    Article - Should Athletes Train Like Bodybuilders

    http://www.mercola.com/2004/feb/18/athlete_training.htm

    Basically, the author says to eat whole food and to train with compounds movements and with free weights. Beware of figure 3.

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    Sandow rules, except for the whole fig leaf thing. But it was a crazy time, I tells ya!

    Of course athletes should NOT train like bodybuilders.

    The journal / I live here.

    If I were to start from scratch as a young 13 year old again, I would do every press, squat, and perhaps deadlifts, for my entire career with chains. -- Dan John

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruise Brubaker
    Beware of figure 3.
    LOL WTF was up with that?

    I'll tell you this much, I don't expect someone running a mile or swimming over 1000M to be doing the same rep range as a bodybuilder...
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    Offensive Lineman should train like an Offensive Lineman.

    Baseball players should train like a baseball player.

    Hockey player should train like a hockey player.

    Powerlifter should train like a powerlifter.

    Bodybuilders should train like a fitness model.

    Kc

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    yeah thats true there are way to many bodybuilders who claim their physicaly fit and run like a 7 minute Kilometer
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    Whats the big deal? The imporant points of that article are stressed by the regulars on this forum every day.

    -Healthy foods.
    -Compound movements.
    -Not relying on supplements to make up for lack of diet/training/rest.

    The only difference between the way an educated WBBer trains and a bodybuilder from the 50's is that we are scientific in the way we approach training as opposed to mythological.

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    However now days science is telling us that what they did back in the 50s was better.

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    However now days broken records in basically every single sport and bodybuilders carrying 50lbs more mass tell us what they did back in the 50s was not better.
    "I added some db curls with the pink weights for a bit of a burn." - Rookiebldr

    "im assuming the holy (big) 3 are: curls, bench, legs?" - Saggas

    "had a huge ass burn on my triceps while I was doing those kickbacks, so they'll likely be staying with my exercise program." - Zearoth

    "most of my burned calories coming from something called Basal. Wtf does a leaf have to do with any of it?" - Votorx

    "We have a lot of people like that on our campus, all hippies and things, that go around preaching against corporations, jocks, preps, accountants, and anyone else that feels the need to shower more than occasionally." - Shankerr

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadian Crippler
    However now days broken records in basically every single sport and bodybuilders carrying 50lbs more mass tell us what they did back in the 50s was not better.
    Because drugs rule.
    "It is often said, mainly by the "no-contests", that although there is no positive evidence for the existence of God, nor is there evidence against his existence. So it is best to keep an open mind and be agnostic. At first sight that seems an unassailable position, at least in the weak sense of Pascal's wager. But on second thought it seems a cop-out, because the same could be said of Father Christmas and tooth fairies. There may be fairies at the bottom of the garden. There is no evidence for it, but you can't prove that there aren't any, so shouldn't we be agnostic with respect to fairies?"

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    "Out of all of the sects in the world, we notice an uncanny coincidence: the overwhelming majority just happen to choose the one that their parents belong to. Not the sect that has the best evidence in its favour, the best miracles, the best moral code, the best cathedral, the best stained glass, the best music: when it comes to choosing from the smorgasbord of available religions, their potential virtues seem to count for nothing, compared to the matter of heredity. This is an unmistakable fact; nobody could seriously deny it. Yet people with full knowledge of the arbitrary nature of this heredity, somehow manage to go on believing in their religion, often with such fanaticism that they are prepared to murder people who follow a different one."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadian Crippler
    However now days broken records in basically every single sport and bodybuilders carrying 50lbs more mass tell us what they did back in the 50s was not better.
    Two reasons:

    1. Better drugs.
    2. We are build to get better. Just like in 2050 they will say the same about us from 2000.

    In the 50's training with high frequency and heavy compound movements where common in every gym up to the early 70's. From the mid 70's to the late 90's it was not. Nothing from this era was impressive.. now days similar trianing styles that was done back in the 50's are being done now. Which is high frequency training and heavy compound movements done every week.

    Kc

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    I would say that the two main reasons why top modern athletes perform better are nutrition and a much larger pool of participants in athletics.

    The journal / I live here.

    If I were to start from scratch as a young 13 year old again, I would do every press, squat, and perhaps deadlifts, for my entire career with chains. -- Dan John

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    Good points all around. However doesn't the fact they we now have a greater understanding of nutrition and better drugs mean that training results from the past to present are incomparable?

    I'd also like to know what "modern style of training" you are referring to. As far as I know compounds and olympic lifts seem to be the "in" thing for most professional athletes.
    "I added some db curls with the pink weights for a bit of a burn." - Rookiebldr

    "im assuming the holy (big) 3 are: curls, bench, legs?" - Saggas

    "had a huge ass burn on my triceps while I was doing those kickbacks, so they'll likely be staying with my exercise program." - Zearoth

    "most of my burned calories coming from something called Basal. Wtf does a leaf have to do with any of it?" - Votorx

    "We have a lot of people like that on our campus, all hippies and things, that go around preaching against corporations, jocks, preps, accountants, and anyone else that feels the need to shower more than occasionally." - Shankerr

    "Damn man why are some women just so demonic and evil.. its like you wanna get a stake and mallet and an erection at the same time." - WBBIRL

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    From a div. 1 athletic point, we have 6 weeks right now at the end of the season where we're "Body Building" the point is to put on our shield of armour, and gain bulk in the way of LBM.
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