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    critique add on to previous routine

    Old:

    Monday
    Chest (10) /Tris(6)
    A.
    4x Flat BB Press
    3x Incline DB Press
    3x Machine Flyes
    3x Dips
    3x Tri Kick Out
    B.
    4x Flat DB Press
    3x Incline BB Press
    3x Incline DB Flyes
    3x Close Grip Bench
    3x Tri Push Down

    Tuesday
    Back (10) /Bis (3)/ Traps (2)
    A.
    4x Deadlift
    3x Chins
    3x BB Rows
    2x DB Shrugs
    3x BB Curls
    B.
    4x SL Deadlift
    3x Pull-Ups
    3x Cable Rows
    2x Hammer Strength Shrugs
    2x Preacher/Isolation Hammer Curls 8-7
    1x Standing Hammer Curls - 6
    C.
    4x Deadlift
    3x Pull-Downs
    3x Single DB Rows
    2x BB Shrugs
    2x Seated Alternate DB Curl
    1x Standing Alternate DB Curl


    Thursday
    Legs (9)/Calves (4)
    A.
    4x Squats
    4x Legs Press Calf Raise
    2x Leg Extension
    3x Leg Curl
    B.
    4x Leg Press
    4x Seated Calf Raise
    2x Leg Extension
    3x Leg Curl

    Friday
    Shoulders (7)
    A.
    3x BB Shoulder Press
    2x Lateral Raises
    2x Rear Delt DB Flye
    B.
    3x DB Shoulder Press
    2x Cable Lateral Raises
    2x Rear Delt Cable Flye
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    New


    Monday
    Chest (13) /Tris(6)
    A.
    4x Incline DB Press
    3x Flat BB Press
    3x DB Flyes
    3x Hammer Chest Press
    3x Dips
    3x Skull Crushers
    B.
    4x Incline BB Press
    3x Flat DB Press
    3x Incline DB Flyes
    3x other Hammer Chest Press
    3x Close Grip Bench
    3x Rope Push Down

    Tuesday
    Back (13) /Bis (6)
    A.
    4x Deadlift
    3x Chins
    3x Overhand BB Rows
    3x Cable Rows
    3x BB Curls
    3x DB Curls
    B.
    4x SL Deadlift
    3x Pull-Ups
    3x Cable Rows
    3x Hammer Strength Rows
    3x Hammer Curls
    3x DB Curls
    C.
    4x Deadlift
    3x Pull-Downs
    3x Underhand BB Rows
    3x Cable Rows
    3x DB Curls
    3x BB Cur

    Thursday
    Legs (10)/Calves (4)
    A.
    4x Squats
    3x Leg Extension
    3x Leg Curl
    4x Legs Press Calf Raise

    B.
    4x Leg Press
    3x Hack Squat
    3x Leg Curl
    4x Seated Calf Raise

    Friday
    Shoulders (10) Traps (7)
    A.
    4x DB Shoulder Press
    3x Lateral Raises
    3x Rear Delt DB Flye
    4x DB Shrugs
    3x BB Shrugs
    B.
    4x Arnold Press / BB Shoulder Press
    3x Cable Lateral Raises
    3x Rear Delt Cable Flye
    4x BB Shrugs
    3x DB Shrugs


    Basically Just added a set on for muscles that needed some more work
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    Both your old and new routine are terrible. Now I am not flaming you, but they are. Way too many sets, way too many duplicated exercises and far too many isolation exercises (especially for shoulders)

    When you work chest you work shoulders, when you work back you also work shoulders. On top of that you want to throw another 10 sets for shoulders in as well? That's roughly 30 sets for shoulders per week.

    I'd eliminate 50% of the exercises. And 50% of the sets. Your body will thank you. The sheer volume is just too high unless you are a genetic freak like the pro bodybuilders (some of who have routines that are quite similar.)

    And you don't need to vary between A B and C. Pick one and stick to it. Varying will not necessarily give you greater gains and could easily be counter-productive.
    Last edited by Songsangnim; 01-15-2006 at 03:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExtremeAnabolic
    Both your old and new routine are terrible. Now I am not flaming you, but they are. Way too many sets, way too many duplicated exercises and far too many isolation exercises (especially for shoulders)

    When you work chest you work shoulders, when you work back you also work shoulders. On top of that you want to throw another 10 sets for shoulders in as well? That's roughly 30 sets for shoulders per week.

    I'd eliminate 50% of the exercises. And 50% of the sets. Your body will thank you. The sheer volume is just too high unless you are a genetic freak like the pro bodybuilders (some of who have routines that are quite similar.)

    And you don't need to vary between A B and C. Pick one and stick to it. Varying will not necessarily give you greater gains and could easily be counter-productive.
    I am a genetic freak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brewski053
    I am a genetic freak.
    I'm sure you are... But just because you have a 3rd arm growing out of your forehead doesn't mean you shouldn't take his advice...
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    Bench - 374lbs -- 170kg -- Dec 20, '08 (@100kg class)
    Dead - 589lbs -- 267.5kg -- Dec 20, '08 (Provincial Record @100kg class)
    Total: 1537lbs -- 697.5kg -- Dec 20, '08 (Provincial Record @ 100kg class)
    Bench Only -- 358lbs -- 162.5kg -- Nov. 25, '07 (Provincial Record @ 90kg class)
    Bench Only -- 376lbs -- 171kg -- Jan. 26, '08 (Provincial Record @ 100kg class)

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    Quote Originally Posted by deeder
    I'm sure you are... But just because you have a 3rd arm growing out of your forehead doesn't mean you shouldn't take his advice...
    uh ok I double all of your max lifts and triple your squat. So basically when you get bigger your suppose to do the same # of sets and thats suppose to stimulate this bigger muscle the same? yea ok nice knowing ya
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    Quote Originally Posted by brewski053
    So basically when you get bigger your suppose to do the same # of sets and thats suppose to stimulate this bigger muscle the same?
    You should work on the brain muscles and learn about load.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brewski053
    uh ok I double all of your max lifts and triple your squat. So basically when you get bigger your suppose to do the same # of sets and thats suppose to stimulate this bigger muscle the same? yea ok nice knowing ya
    Yes... You are supposed to do the same number of sets to stimulate the bigger muscles. Congrats on having bigger lifts than mine... I know they suck... However, I still beat you in one category: My IQ triples yours
    Full Powerlifting
    Squat - 595lbs -- 270kg -- Dec. 31, '09 (Provincial Record @100kg class)
    Bench - 374lbs -- 170kg -- Dec 20, '08 (@100kg class)
    Dead - 589lbs -- 267.5kg -- Dec 20, '08 (Provincial Record @100kg class)
    Total: 1537lbs -- 697.5kg -- Dec 20, '08 (Provincial Record @ 100kg class)
    Bench Only -- 358lbs -- 162.5kg -- Nov. 25, '07 (Provincial Record @ 90kg class)
    Bench Only -- 376lbs -- 171kg -- Jan. 26, '08 (Provincial Record @ 100kg class)

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    Quote Originally Posted by brewski053
    uh ok I double all of your max lifts and triple your squat. So basically when you get bigger your suppose to do the same # of sets and thats suppose to stimulate this bigger muscle the same? yea ok nice knowing ya

    You can do a 720 ATF squat? Pics please

    If you are not going to take advice, why ask for it?
    Last edited by Songsangnim; 01-16-2006 at 02:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brewski053
    I am a genetic freak.
    LOL. If you indeed are a genetical superior being, any training and diet will make you grow.

    However, regarding your routine, I don't like it. Generally, I tend to shun any routines that hurt to read.
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    I agree, way to much work there. More != better.

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    LOL. Judging by your pics you are anything but a genetic freak. I agree with mixmasternash and extreme anabolic (which has probably never happened in the same thread before).

    You asked some questions and got good replys. You then proceeded to lie. Get over yourself. Maybe the reason you keep starting threads about your routines is that they arent quite working towards your goals anymore? Open your mind to new ideas, stop being a jackass.
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    If you looked like your avatar then you could be concidered a genetic freak. You look pretty normal to me. Why ask for a critique if your going to argue with the criticism?

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    Last edited by TJH; 01-16-2006 at 02:54 PM.

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