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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Bench without a spotter?

    Was just wondering if anyone does?

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    Not on heavy weight.

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    I always get a spotter for heavy sets

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    Use a power rack.

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    Wrecker of Homes d'Anconia's Avatar
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    Many of the people who bench without a spotter put a bench into the squat rack and place the safety bars at the immediate level above where the bar would actually be on your chest. I hope this makes sense; it'll decrease the range of motion just slightly but you will be able to bench without a spotter.

    BTW this is assuming you're talking about BB. If you use DBs it won't be a problem.
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    I always bench without a spotter and I'm too lazy to set up the power rack properly. It makes it quite fun on the last rep or so, as it literally becomes a 'do or die' situation.

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    I never max out without a spotter, but usually any other time it depends on the situation. If im working at or above 75% my 1RM and theres someone around Ill ask for a spot. If theres no one around, or no one that I trust spoting me then I just go for it.. like prae said it becomes a "this **** is going up or im getting stuck under it" moment. But never raw, and never when im doing negatives obviously

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    I rarely have a spotter for anything. I have a workout partner but we don't generally do the same exercises at the same time because we never get to the gym at the same time and we are both impatient people.

    The only time we spot each other is when we're going for 1 rep maxes or maybe the last set when we aren't sure if we can make it.
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    Total: 1537lbs -- 697.5kg -- Dec 20, '08 (Provincial Record @ 100kg class)
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    Depends. I do a lot of training to sub-failure these days so I don't require a spotter.
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    nope, i think it gives you more of a determination to get up the weight on that last rep. Because i know there's been quite a few times where i would have said F it take that i can't finish. then again i'm only maxin 235 right now

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    280 and under I dont use a spotter
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    Since I lift at home I normally do not use a spotter. However, I have learned the hard way (almost killing myself with too much weight) that having a spotter for testing your max is a VERY good idea. So, whenever I wanna go for a new max I go to the gym and have my friend spot me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmicdebree88
    Since I lift at home I normally do not use a spotter. However, I have learned the hard way (almost killing myself with too much weight) that having a spotter for testing your max is a VERY good idea. So, whenever I wanna go for a new max I go to the gym and have my friend spot me.
    LOL! Atleast you learnt your lesson!
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    Bench - 374lbs -- 170kg -- Dec 20, '08 (@100kg class)
    Dead - 589lbs -- 267.5kg -- Dec 20, '08 (Provincial Record @100kg class)
    Total: 1537lbs -- 697.5kg -- Dec 20, '08 (Provincial Record @ 100kg class)
    Bench Only -- 358lbs -- 162.5kg -- Nov. 25, '07 (Provincial Record @ 90kg class)
    Bench Only -- 376lbs -- 171kg -- Jan. 26, '08 (Provincial Record @ 100kg class)

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    i weight lift in my cold garage, in cold england

    im too bitter to have a spotter

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    I don't usually use a spotter because I don't trust a lot of people in the gyms these days. I do feel they're important to max with or realy heavy weight.

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    I usually have to lift alone. I always bench in a power rack (except in meets).
    A child does not learn to squat from the top down. In other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and make the conscious decision to stand. Squatting precedes standing in the developmental sequence. This is the way a child's brain learns to use the body as the child develops movement patterns. Therefore, a child is probably crawling, rocks back into a squatting position with the back completely relaxed and the hips completely flexed, and stands when he has enough hip strength. This approach makes a lot of sense and can be applied to relearning the deep squat movement if it is lost. -Gray Cook
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    I don't ever use a spotter. Never max out and on regular sets I usually stop one rep before failure.

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    I always lift on my own, but bench is the one thing that I always make sure I grab someone to spot me for. It's easy to get pinned under 85% of 1RM when you're going for sets than it is with oh say 65% though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by g00dnick
    I don't ever use a spotter. Never max out and on regular sets I usually stop one rep before failure.
    How do you know when the rep before failure is? I'm curious......
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1r15h
    How do you know when the rep before failure is? I'm curious......
    Sounds more like he stops at the sign of struggle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dw06wu
    Sounds more like he stops at the sign of struggle.
    He might not... When you lifts weights for a while your start to "know" things about your body, like what you can or cannot do.

    The nice thing about not having a spotter is that if you have the balls to do it and train heavy, you may become stronger a result. When you know you HAVE to get that weight up, the body responds. However, I no longer play that game as I am now a chicken and scared to bench heavy without a spotter. But I used too, perhaps not my absolute max though.

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    I never use a spotter even when maxing out. Sounds stupid as hell but I have mastered rolling the bar down my chest and stomach and setting it on my legs and then sitting up. I rolled 230 down it trying to max out the other day without leaving marks
    (I wouldn't suggest trying this unless you are just starting to lift. I have been rolling the bar down my stomach ever since I could only bench 80 pounds, so I am used to it)
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    Quote Originally Posted by need4muscle
    I never use a spotter even when maxing out. Sounds stupid as hell but I have mastered rolling the bar down my chest and stomach and setting it on my legs and then sitting up. I rolled 230 down it trying to max out the other day without leaving marks
    (I wouldn't suggest trying this unless you are just starting to lift. I have been rolling the bar down my stomach ever since I could only bench 80 pounds, so I am used to it)
    When you get pinned it's actually better to tip the bar to the sides (I leave the clips off for this purpose). Rolling the bar down your chest/stomach can result in broken ribs with enough weight...
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    ive done it before, never again. my arms gave out and i tried to put it back the the rack. Only one got in and the bar feel on my face, and i barely had enough enery to get it off my face and on my chest, and it hurt so bad. My chest bone was sore for awhile

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    If i get to a set where i feel like a need a spotter, and none are around, i switch to db's.

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