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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Worried...

    So I've been researching the whole 'cardio while bulking' topic, and I'm sure many of you don't want to here anymore about it, but here we go.

    I've been bulking forever, still right around 240, trying to get up to 250. I got sick last week, kind of threw me off track, but now I'm back in the game and ready to get to 250. I haven't done cardio in FOREVER, and I'm starting to think I may not be as healthy as I once was. Stronger yes, but Cardiovascular wise I can just tell I'm out of it. I played football with some of my buddies a couple weeks ago and I was killed, when normally I could take it pretty easily. I'll be honest, it kind of worried me a bit.

    So my question is, should I throw in some cardio? Do you think year round cardio is a good idea??? I know I'll have to eat more to make up for it if I still want to bulk, but do you think I'll still be ok with the cardio in my routine?

    I'm just a little worried for my own health, and I want to get some of your input on it.
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    IMO i say do cardio all year round. it make me feel soo much better,i dont get out of breath if i want to play a pick up game of basketball, i sleep better, my lifts are better when i do cardio. so i say go for it, just make sure you up your food intake
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    I throw in a cross fit exercise every couple of weeks to keep me on my toes.

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    This is what happened to me... I bulked for almost 2 years straight and did no cardio. What happened at the end of the two years? Sure I got much bigger and stronger-- but eventually I was feeling tired all the time and even if I slept for as much as 9-10 hours a night, I still felt tired when I woke up in the morning.

    What made me incorporate cardio was when my lifting sessions were getting increasingly difficult to finish -- I would be way out of breathe for squats and deadlifts relative to before -- and so I'd have to leave the gym prematurely because I was too tired to continue. So, realize your heart is a muscle too and it should be exercised. Your heart is having to work harder than before to hold up your weight but your heart wasn't trained to become stronger.

    Try doing powerwalking on a treadmill for 45 minutes until it becomes easy for you, then start jogging. Build up _some_ endurance.

    Also, what's your bf%? You should probably stop bulking if you're in the 20-25% range anyway -- you tend to put on less and less muscle the higher your bf gets. Try losing some fat and then re-bulking. That's what I'm doing right now. Good luck

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    Thanks to everyone for their opinions.

    My BF% is right around 19. I'm not too worried about that because I don't think I look fat yet, so I'm going for 250 before I knock back down.

    How many days a week do you think I should Cardio if I'm bulking, 3-4? I'm thinking 3, just to try and keep my cardio at a decent level but still be able to bulk, but again I'm a little lost on this.

    I'm thinking I'll probably hit up the bike or the treadmill... How many of you that are doing cardio right now actually go run?
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    I'd do 3 times a week, just some sort of brisk uphill walking or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brickt.
    I'd do 3 times a week, just some sort of brisk uphill walking or something.
    Alright, is brisk uphill walking enough? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by trasmi21
    Alright, is brisk uphill walking enough? lol
    walking briskly on an incline is the only cardio you need.
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    Alright, appreciate the advice from everyone.


    Looks like I'm gonna be adding in some cardio 3 times a week.
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    My cardio consists of about a half mile of weighted sled dragging 3-5 times a week.

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    You don't need much. I find that endurance with cardio comes back very quickly to someone who isn't sedentary. I am similar to eps, I went on a really long bulk and did no cardio. I got back in there about a month ago, and I couldn't run a mile under 10:00. I've been going maybe 1-2 times a week and I'm already back down to like 7:15-ish. You just gotta keep it consistent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drew
    My cardio consists of about a half mile of weighted sled dragging 3-5 times a week.
    Drew, what do your sled workouts look like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dw06wu
    You don't need much. I find that endurance with cardio comes back very quickly to someone who isn't sedentary. I am similar to eps, I went on a really long bulk and did no cardio. I got back in there about a month ago, and I couldn't run a mile under 10:00. I've been going maybe 1-2 times a week and I'm already back down to like 7:15-ish. You just gotta keep it consistent.
    I'm glad to hear that, hopefully I'll respond in a similar way. I used to run cross country and high school, and I'm used to having decent cardiovascular strength. I think just because I haven't ran in so long I sorta got worried about it. Once I get to 250, I think I'm going to try and get my mile run to a 7:00ish time just for health reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brickt.
    I'd do 3 times a week, just some sort of brisk uphill walking or something.
    Agreed completely... Get yourself a decent 4 mile an hour walk and bring up the incline... You will stay in shape pretty decently with that and yet not be sore for the next day workout.

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    How large of an effect does doing cardio have on building muscle? If I was running around 2 miles on an almost daily basis, would that nullify the lifting I was doing? And is it good to do cardio before or after lifting, and how long before or after is good?

    What would you say is the best cardo to be doing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trasmi21
    Drew, what do your sled workouts look like?
    Very simple. I put 2 or 3 plates on the sled, harness it to my waist, then pull for 200 feet or so. Rest 20 secs, go back. Repeat 10-20 times.

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    brisk uphill walking? treadmill? *yawn*

    play some basketball or tennis. Go for a bike ride, join a kick boxing class.... do something. You could walk uphill, and i'm sure it'll help with cardio but you'll be bored to pieces. If you're going to do cardio make it fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eatit
    brisk uphill walking? treadmill? *yawn*

    play some basketball or tennis. Go for a bike ride, join a kick boxing class.... do something. You could walk uphill, and i'm sure it'll help with cardio but you'll be bored to pieces. If you're going to do cardio make it fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drew
    Very simple. I put 2 or 3 plates on the sled, harness it to my waist, then pull for 200 feet or so. Rest 20 secs, go back. Repeat 10-20 times.

    Drew, you are the man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eatit
    brisk uphill walking? treadmill? *yawn*

    play some basketball or tennis. Go for a bike ride, join a kick boxing class.... do something. You could walk uphill, and i'm sure it'll help with cardio but you'll be bored to pieces. If you're going to do cardio make it fun.

    Totally agree! Cardio doesn't have to be a chore when theres so many different sports that will give you a great workout.
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    I say play a sport if your schedule allows it. That is much more fun than regular cardio. I'm gonna play soccer this spring, which is gonna be interesting, lol.

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    I'll probably just hit the bike for now, unless it starts getting warm then I'll play some tennis.
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    I got the sled and strap from elitefts.com and just put the strap through an old belt.

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    You too can look like an idiot to all your neighbors running around your parking lot tugging a sled!

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    We don't run with the sled. Bad Kevin.

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