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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Milk makes me sick?

    The last few times I have had milk, I have gotten VERY sick. I'm talking hugging the toilet water coming out of both holes sick. Gross, I know.

    Now, the reason I have it's been "the last few times" is because I have been trying different scenarios to see if it really was the milk that was making me sick. Since I have had milk since I was a child, I was curious to see if I was slowly developing an issue with milk. It seems at first I was getting gasy and bloated and getting diarrea a lot. So, I started taking Lactaid figuring I was lactose intollerant. However, what's weird is that I can eat cheese and yogurt like it's nobodies business and I don't get sick. Lately, I've had a large glass of milk with my lunch. Probably about 20 - 25oz. About 30 minutes after that, my stomach would start to cramp up a bit and I'd feel very sick. Then the following week I had milk in the AM with some protein and ended up going home and throwing up and having very bad diarrea for 2 days. I drank this milk with the Lactaid as well. I didn't know if it was the milk or what I ate before drinking the milk. So, Monday night after my workout, I had Milk with my 2 scoops of Optimum. Within 30 minutes I was sick. Up all night hugging the toilet sick and it takes me at least 2 days to fully recover.

    My question is, does anyone else here have just have problems with Milk? It can't be lactose. I'm absolutely fine eating large quantities of cheese (such as a full 12" pizza) and I eat yogurt and butter and ice cream all the time with no problems! It seems to be just the milk... Is that possible?

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    So all of a sudden, out of the blue, you just started getting sick from drinking milk? You have been drinking it for how many years now without getting sick?

    Sounds odd. Have you changed milk brands or types? Was the exp date bad?

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    I was JUST about to post this same thing. I went to my doctor and she gave me lactate pills, didn't do anything for me when I drank milk/protein shake. I get very gasy and bloated. It happened yesterday, I was studying so i couldn't let em rip so to speak. I looked atleast 10-15lbs heavier just because of the bloated gut

    Edit: I also get bloated and gasy from high fibe foods, like beans, fruit and oatmeal
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    The lactase enzymes you swallow with food don't work very well; that's my experience with them. The best way to go is lactose-free milk. Cheese has only small amounts of lactose, and yogurt has good bacteria in it that helps digest lactose; thus explaining why they don't bother you.

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    I'd also consider the possibility that you are getting sick. I know I have problems with lactose whenever I get a cold or the flu.
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    muscleup - I used to always drink Mayfield Milk, but over the last 3 months I was drinking Horizon Organic milk. I didn't have any problems with either. It just started to gradually come up. Like, at first I wasn't ever gassy or bloated. Then I started getting very gassy and bloated after a few weeks. Then diarrea came on after a few more weeks. Then I started getting stomach cramps and nausea (started happening a few weeks ago) then my body started completely rejecting it and I was throwing it up and having BAD diarrea... So, this hasn't just happened once. It's not like I had a bad or expired milk jug I was drinking from... So, I'm ruling that out.

    accuFLEX - Same here. When I drink milk my stomach is twice as big. However, I'm fine with fruits and beans.

    Spartan936 - That makes sense. However, there is sometimes more than 11 oz's of cheese on a 12" pizza. Some places put anywhere from 1 cup - 2 cups of cheese. 1 cup - 8 oz's. So we get 1.5 cups and it's 12 oz's. However, I don't even get gassy from that! Is it maybe that the milk is digested so much quicker? I don't know... I'm reaching for straws here. All I know is I've lost a total of 7lbs from being sick last week due to milk and this week due to milk and it's pissing me off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by intargc
    muscleup - I used to always drink Mayfield Milk, but over the last 3 months I was drinking Horizon Organic milk. I didn't have any problems with either. It just started to gradually come up. Like, at first I wasn't ever gassy or bloated. Then I started getting very gassy and bloated after a few weeks. Then diarrea came on after a few more weeks. Then I started getting stomach cramps and nausea (started happening a few weeks ago) then my body started completely rejecting it and I was throwing it up and having BAD diarrea... So, this hasn't just happened once. It's not like I had a bad or expired milk jug I was drinking from... So, I'm ruling that out.

    accuFLEX - Same here. When I drink milk my stomach is twice as big. However, I'm fine with fruits and beans.

    Spartan936 - That makes sense. However, there is sometimes more than 11 oz's of cheese on a 12" pizza. Some places put anywhere from 1 cup - 2 cups of cheese. 1 cup - 8 oz's. So we get 1.5 cups and it's 12 oz's. However, I don't even get gassy from that! Is it maybe that the milk is digested so much quicker? I don't know... I'm reaching for straws here. All I know is I've lost a total of 7lbs from being sick last week due to milk and this week due to milk and it's pissing me off.
    1 large glass of milk still has much more lactose than 12oz of cheese. However, lactose intolerance usually doesn't just spring up out of nowhere. it might be something else. not too sure though.

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    have you ever tried kiefr?

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    Never even heard of it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by intargc
    Never even heard of it...
    http://www.kefir.net/intro.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by intargc
    Never even heard of it...
    Its like yougurt and a probiotic to aid with digestion and fighting of bacteria. It is really tangy though

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    intargc it sounds like you are describing my own problem. I was eventually going to start a thread over it but didn't really get around to it (not like it takes too much time, I'm just a lazy bastard).

    From what I understand during the first 17 or so years of my life I have never had problems with milk but then again I've hardly ever sat and drank a large quantity of it without eating food with it. Once I started taking protein shakes I noticed that it gave me diarrhea and I had no idea why. I never considered myself lactose intolerant so I assumed it was the protein powder I was using.
    I switched protein powder and I still had the same problem. What eventually fixed it for me was just splitting my protein shake into two halves and drinking them at different times of the day. It still kinda sucks though cuz I can't bulk up on milk ya know?
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    I would talk to a doctor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muscleup
    I would talk to a doctor.
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    There are tests that u can do to find out if u are truly lactose intolerant. One of them requires u to be in a fasting state, then ingest 50g of lactose in i believe 16oz of water. After 1 hour if ur blood glucose level has not risen at all, you are lactose intolerant, as the absence of lactase does not allow for the absorption of the lactose which is a sugar molecule. (this is all from what i understand and have learned in class, not backed up by a journal/scientific research).

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    ^ Is it just me or does it seem like, if you were lactose intolerant, that you'd be shatting your pants after that test?

    Yep, looks like I just passed the 3k mark.
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    lol congrats on the 3k+, and yeah i'm assuming u'd **** urself.. but that's sort of the point. if u can digest it, it means that u have lactase. It still might go through ur system like a freight train, (possibly because ur unaccustomed to it?) not too sure though... maybe somebody with more knowledge on the subject can help out... personally, with anything more than 750ml of milk in 1 sitting and nothing else to eat, i feel like crapping my pants.

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    Irritable Bowel Syndrome

    Thats what I have and when I get very stressed I have complete intolerance for milk however I can have ice cream, yogurt, cheese etc... It does the opposite thing to me as it did to you but thats the opposite, there are several different kinds of reactions. I would see a doctor and go get a colonoscopy however, as it could be something more severe.
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    Actually- I thought it wasn't that uncommon for people to develop lactose intolerance fairly suddenly once they reach adulthood. It didn't kick in for my mom until her 40's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DenimDemon
    Actually- I thought it wasn't that uncommon for people to develop lactose intolerance fairly suddenly once they reach adulthood. It didn't kick in for my mom until her 40's.
    my sister became lactose intolerant during and after her pregnanacy, as followed her daughter as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by getfit
    my sister became lactose intolerant during and after her pregnanacy, as followed her daughter as well.
    I believe with women who are going through menopause or are pregnant, that can happen because of the sudden changes of hormones and such, but in a regular adult (i thought that they could develop it easily as well), according to my food and nutrition professor, u are either born with lactase, or not.

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