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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    DeadLifts

    Whats the difference between regular and straight legged deadlifts? and I know one of them you do with your legs straight. But it seems to me that they work out the exact same things. I am doing WBB1 and it has you doing deadlifts 2 times a week.
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    I have a quick question of my own on DL form

    http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...BDeadlift.html

    I was taught in football years back that you should keep your ass up higher than this guy does when he's at the bottom of the lift, is that true? He seems to be using more quads the way he's doing it. I also fit it harder to put your ass that low at the bottom of the lift because your body seems to sit back more and my shins then get in the way of putting the BB on the ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gator
    I have a quick question of my own on DL form

    http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...BDeadlift.html

    I was taught in football years back that you should keep your ass up higher than this guy does when he's at the bottom of the lift, is that true? He seems to be using more quads the way he's doing it. I also fit it harder to put your ass that low at the bottom of the lift because your body seems to sit back more and my shins then get in the way of putting the BB on the ground.

    no the form shown is the correct form...you can have yoru ass a little higher but your back needs to be straight just like the form shown...you want your ass to sit back like that, and thats why hardcore deadlifters sometimes get bad gashes on their shins...wear knee high socks if this is a problem...
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    oh my back is straight, no question about that, however when you put your butt down that low you seem to be working more of the squads.

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    I'm w/ you normaldude I feel them both in the same spot (glutorials, hamstrings) and just barely in the back. I just choose my fave of the 2 (stiff) and just do those, and just ditch the other, don't need it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gator
    oh my back is straight, no question about that, however when you put your butt down that low you seem to be working more of the squads.
    That's correct. You do want to drive with your quads and legs so you can lift more weight. As was pointed out earlier, this is a total body exercise, including the legs. Using your whole body you'll get more out of the exercise and be able to lift more weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rookiebldr
    That's correct. You do want to drive with your quads and legs so you can lift more weight. As was pointed out earlier, this is a total body exercise, including the legs. Using your whole body you'll get more out of the exercise and be able to lift more weight.
    Yea good point, my DL's are weak probably because I dont use my legs at all.

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    I kinda feel like a reetard when I am trying to do these. I am just not sure I am doing them right. Well so far I havent hurt my back so I must be ok?
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    I feel these beasts in my back, I only do like 245x5 on DL's. I dont feel them in my legs at all. Should you drive with your quads and straigten essentially at the same time? Or do you drive with your quads to get the bar off the ground for a couple of inches then use your back with your quads to get your body straight up?

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    ^ I believe you're supposed to straight AND drive it up at the same time. If you were to just drive up with the legs AND THEN bring your back upright... I don't think you'd see very good progress because the legs won't have much of a problem getting the weight up but your back won't be able to get upright with that much weight.
    It's like the 2nd half of that sort of form would just be like a SLDL.

    I always try to get my ass as far down as I can and look up at the ceiling, I'm able to do more weight this weigh and I assume it's because my legs and back are doing the work together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatrb38
    ^ I believe you're supposed to straight AND drive it up at the same time. If you were to just drive up with the legs AND THEN bring your back upright... I don't think you'd see very good progress because the legs won't have much of a problem getting the weight up but your back won't be able to get upright with that much weight.
    It's like the 2nd half of that sort of form would just be like a SLDL.

    I always try to get my ass as far down as I can and look up at the ceiling, I'm able to do more weight this weigh and I assume it's because my legs and back are doing the work together.

    *Sigh* I love deadlifts.
    How do you manage to get the bar to the ground when you put your ass down low? My knees and shins seem to get in the way, because your supposed to keep your body/shoulders back.
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    Well I guess some of it has to do with the size/shape of the person doing the lift I guess. Also my hands are just slightly wider than shoulder width apart and my legs are at shoulder width. Even though I look up as much as I can, my back is still not entirely upright when I first start the motion.

    I wish I could make a video but I don't have a camcorder. Also my form on the way down is not the same as on the way up and I'm sure I'd find it incredibly awkward to try to get the weight back to the ground with my shoulders still back. Basically I guess I really only worry about getting the weight up, how I put it back down doesn't matter much to me. I was always under the impression that the eccentric motion for deadlifts wasn't that big of a deal since it'd be a complete bitch to try to get that weight to go slowly back to the ground with the same form. Now I'm confused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatrb38
    Well I guess some of it has to do with the size/shape of the person doing the lift I guess. Also my hands are just slightly wider than shoulder width apart and my legs are at shoulder width. Even though I look up as much as I can, my back is still not entirely upright when I first start the motion.

    I wish I could make a video but I don't have a camcorder. Also my form on the way down is not the same as on the way up and I'm sure I'd find it incredibly awkward to try to get the weight back to the ground with my shoulders still back. Basically I guess I really only worry about getting the weight up, how I put it back down doesn't matter much to me. I was always under the impression that the eccentric motion for deadlifts wasn't that big of a deal since it'd be a complete bitch to try to get that weight to go slowly back to the ground with the same form. Now I'm confused.

    haha yea makes sence in a way, using the same motion back down really doesn't work. Next deadlift day I'm going to throw some low weight on there and start playing with my form a bit.

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    Yeah. I guess when you go back down you have to actually bring your upper body down a little before your start bending your knees. Each person is different though so it can get confusing. Playing with the form, as you said, should definitely help you find what works for you.
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