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    Quick thank you - sorry for the new thread

    Quick thanks to those that responded to my: "Quick question about: Kelly's workout etc". I appreciate the useable responses. Cheers.
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    I had a couple questions about it myself but right as I posted on your thread it got locked up... might create a new one soon.
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    I've gone over this a few times for those who care and I vaguely remember there being a small discussion regarding # of sets to do work chest workouts.

    Hopefully you guys know what the idea of diminishing returns is, because I've seen research saying that it applies to strength training.
    Basically: The first working set that you do will hold the most marginal benefit, and subsequent ones will hold less and less. I remember there actually being numbers that went something like this:
    Doing 1 set will cause you to see ~75% of optimum results.
    Doing 2 sets will cause you to see ~90% of optimum results (a marginal benefit of ~15%)
    Doing 3 sets will cause you to see ~94% of optimum results. (a marginal benefit of ~4%)
    And so on and so forth. Of course this is with 'all else equal'. So basically while it is up to you to decide how much time you want to spend in the gym, technically the first couple sets will hold a lot of benefit while subsequent ones will be less and less valuable. Naturally of course you have to shy away from overworking individual muscles also so in general I'd say I am an advocate of low-set workouts (although how much time you like to spend in the gym is a big factor).

    I'll have to take a look and see if I can find the study that came up with these results and if I do, I will post it in the forum. There was also an old set entitled (if I remember correctly) "Is one set enough?" so when the search engine is working see if you can't find it, we elaborated a little bit on there (although many people didn't care about the science and just concluded "just go to the gym and work hard and you'll get stronger/bigger").

    BTW if you choose not to believe the idea that I just explained until I come up with hard evidence, that's understandable and fine by me.
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    thanks bro - very elaborate.
    "it's you against you, it's the paradox that drives us all"

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    Good post fatrb! I recall seeing this as well but I'll let you do the leg work to dig it up.

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    Making new thread with better title and slightly different question on the article...
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