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    Common Misunderstanding: How can lifting less produce more?

    A lifting friend asked me the other day: "You say that doing three exercises per muscle group is better than doing five. How is this possible?" Traditionally, I would answer this question by explaining hypertrophy and how once you are past a certain point lifts become futile and can even have negative effects. But before I answered his question I reconsidered. I took something for granted that I think most people are not aware of. A lot of people that lift, lift a lot of different exercizes (5,6,7+) per muscle group per lift for one reason: They aren't lifting hard enough.

    I turned to my friend and asked him, before I answered, why he does five exercizes for his chest instead of three. He told me that he does five, because unless he does five he doesn't feel a burn in his chest and he doesn't feel muscle fatigue the next day. Ah-ha! Exactly what I suspected. He was going through his routine without maximizing the weights/reps/volume or any combination. He was lifting but not to his full potential. I suggested that for the rest of his workout he bump up the weights and add a rep to each set and only do three exercizes instead of 5. We were working chest.

    The next day at the gym I saw him and he looked like he could barely lift his arms. He said, "holy **** does that ever make a difference. My shoulders, chest, and triceps are on fire today. I am just going to do cardio." I chuckled and told him to definitely rest well during the first stages of a newly adopted routine.

    So in summation, two words to all, LIFT HARD. If you think you are lifting as hard as you can, you aren't most likely. Get a spotter and USE him. Especially on your last set you should come damn close to, if not needing, help on your last rep or 2.

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    Good post. I think we're going to be friends.
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    Yeah good post, In reality it doesnt matter whether you perform 1, 3, 5, 7 exercises, so long as you can progress. Otherwise where is the stimulus.

    I go 2 exercises per bodypart and that works fine for ME, whereas i know guys that go 5 exercises high volume and do really well off it, could they do better on less? maybe, maybe not
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    I lifted hard once. The gym people asked me to leave.

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    ^ LOL.

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    same thing happend to me... I had buddy who said he worked out 4hrs a day. First question I asked was how are you progressing? He said not at all and he had been on a plateau forever. I told him to 2-3sets and 6-8 reps per exercise. Also I told him to limit his workout to 90mins. The next time I saw him, well lets just say it made him a believer

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    *waits for someone to bring up how soreness isnt an indicator of growth*

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    we're not saying there getting better growth, we're saying lifting hard every rep for 2-3exercises is better than half assing them so you can do bench, decline, incline, pullovers, and dips all in one workout.
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    "Stimulate. Don't annihilate."

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    Quote Originally Posted by greathuskie
    *waits for someone to bring up how soreness isnt an indicator of growth*
    soreness is not an indicator that you're not progressing, yes!
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