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    People with Bad Backs

    what do you guys do to help it improve?
    because this is the second time i've strained it in less than 6 months and i would like to improve its condition.. i've been doing dls, but i tweaked it doing them this time.
    I don't have time. I make time.

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    I think the title of this should be: Achieving Good Form on Back Workouts.

    Your form must be off. That would be the first logical conclusion. Also, to start conditioning the muscles you may want to drop the weight and add a few reps, just to get the muscles used to the motions. Also... STRETCH.
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    Things I've done that helped when I've injured my back:
    *REST
    *ICE (later heat alternated w. ice, i.e. "contrast baths")
    *NSAIDs (ibuprofen, etc.)
    *Electro-stim

    Things that didn't help and probably made my back take longer to heal:
    *stretching
    *lifting
    *chiropractic visits

    Things I did to rehab which seemed to help:
    *form work
    *special exercises (overhead squats, one legged DLs, etc.)
    *extra special attention to keeping abs activated
    *light hamstring and lower back stretches in the evening
    *heat rub prior to workouts

    Things I try to do consistently now to keep my back healthy...:
    *abs & obliques (ab pulldowns, side bends, windmills, etc.)
    *lower back work (GMs, hyperextensions, etc.)
    *dynamic lifts (like swings, OL)
    *hamstring work (leg curls, GHR, GMs, hyperextension, etc.)
    *stretching (after training)
    *rest
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    Abs and Lower back extensions are the key
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    Rest, stretch and strengthen.

    Make sure you're doing adequate strength work for your hamstrings. Weak hamstrings are often a cause of low back pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensei
    Things I've done that helped when I've injured my back:
    *REST
    *ICE (later heat alternated w. ice, i.e. "contrast baths")
    *NSAIDs (ibuprofen, etc.)
    *Electro-stim

    Things that didn't help and probably made my back take longer to heal:
    *stretching
    *lifting
    *chiropractic visits

    Things I did to rehab which seemed to help:
    *form work
    *special exercises (overhead squats, one legged DLs, etc.)
    *extra special attention to keeping abs activated
    *light hamstring and lower back stretches in the evening
    *heat rub prior to workouts

    Things I try to do consistently now to keep my back healthy...:
    *abs & obliques (ab pulldowns, side bends, windmills, etc.)
    *lower back work (GMs, hyperextensions, etc.)
    *dynamic lifts (like swings, OL)
    *hamstring work (leg curls, GHR, GMs, hyperextension, etc.)
    *stretching (after training)
    *rest
    *

    bingo! this is pretty much exactly what i do. I also watch how i sit in chairs and so on throughout the day. I also no longer keep my wallet in my back pocket (may seem small but really helped me out).
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    1.stop doing barbell squats. Do different typs of lunges, dumbells squats, step ups, leg presses.

    2.Strengthen your core which is most important for lower back support.

    3. Stretching.
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    Try reverse hyperextensions, and hanging from a pull-up bar. These will help loosen the spine up.

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    I've had various back injuries, all of which were solved/improved by these things:

    Stretching - mainly hip flexors, hamstrings, IT band, and lowerback. Those become very tight and unflexible in most lifters due to heavy leg/back work.

    Core strength and stability - spine erectors strength is most important, although abs and obliques are essential to. Once your lower back is a bit better, start light with exercises like squats, rows, deadlifts, STANDING overhead presses, overhead squats, etc. Keep pushing the weights up slowly, and your core should be healthier and stronger than ever soon.

    Also, dependence on belts is in my opinion the cause of alot of people's weak lowerbacks/cores. Never wear them, unless you are maxing out. Do as many exercises standing on your feet as you can. All of those things will contribute to a pretty injury proof back.
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    I found plenty of rest and icing followed by light exercise (mainly reverse hypers) a week or so after resting and icing helped my back.. but thats just me.

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    What do you mean by 'bad back'? There isn't just one kind of back problem. When you find out the problem, then you can fix it.

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    your core and lower back work very much together, so make sure each is very strong if you are going to be lifting heavy weights...
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    thanks for teh replies guys

    what i mean by bad back is for instance, i almost broke my back once in judo, so it's been pretty bad ever since (3 years ago), and my back always gives out at the same exact place (lower left)... i was wondering the ebst way to strengthen it.. because i enjoy squatting and dling
    I don't have time. I make time.

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    What does 'almost broke' mean?

    I go to a chiro once every 4-6 weeks. That, along with stretching and strengthening work wonders.
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