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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    3/4 Deadlifts vs. Rackpulls

    After reading Baby Got Back, I was surprised to see that Built doesn't do deadlifts, but rack pulls instead. I looked at the picture of them and saw the animation of 3/4 deadlifts as well. Is there any particular reason to do rack pulls over 3/4 deadlifts?

    Also, is it a good idea to replace deadlifts with either of these two in WBB1? I hate getting the weight off the floor and the extra few inches make it SO mich easier to do more weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedSpikeyThing
    After reading Baby Got Back, I was surprised to see that Built doesn't do deadlifts, but rack pulls instead. I looked at the picture of them and saw the animation of 3/4 deadlifts as well. Is there any particular reason to do rack pulls over 3/4 deadlifts?

    Also, is it a good idea to replace deadlifts with either of these two in WBB1? I hate getting the weight off the floor and the extra few inches make it SO mich easier to do more weight.
    What is your goal?

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    I just started doing rack pulls to give myself a break from doing DLs every week. Personally, I plan on mixing things up each week.

    DLs are harder for a reason................

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    Just do the proper deadlifts.. they're meant to be hard.

    Surely you want to practice the weakest part so that you can become stronger at it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MixmasterNash
    What is your goal?
    I want to gain muscle mass. I'm not powerlifting so sheer strength is not as important to me.

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    deadlifts or rack pulls will both work good then...however with full deadlifts you are working your legs as well as your back as im sure you know, so maybe you want that little extra leg work in every week?

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    I don't see much value in doing only rack pulls on a frequent basis. They're good for overloading the top of the pull, and can be very useful as part of a progression towards a higher overall deadlift, but for development purposes you might as well use a full ROM at least as often as rack pulls.

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    Thanks for the input everyone. For now I think I'll stick with regular deadlifts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MixmasterNash
    I don't see much value in doing only rack pulls on a frequent basis. They're good for overloading the top of the pull, and can be very useful as part of a progression towards a higher overall deadlift, but for development purposes you might as well use a full ROM at least as often as rack pulls.
    exactly what im doing now. your CNS would probably thank you for not doing deads every week as well

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    I do rack pulls because my deadlift form totally sucks (ok, it doesn't suck, it's really good, and that means I have boneless, skinless shins), and I do RDLs on hamstring day anyway. It's kinda like I break my deadlifts into two components - the one that emphasizes back, and the one that emphasizes hamstrings.

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    Maybe you could try:

    Week1-2: Rack Pulls
    Week3-4: Deadlift off Platform
    Week5-6: Full ROM Deadlifts

    Dunno.
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    Thanks for the suggestions everyone.

    Built, I like the idea of splitting up the motion on to two different days. I am doing WBB1 right now, so I don't know if that would work in to it very well because I do SLDLs on leg day for hamstrings. Please let me know if it can be worked in!

    brickt, I like this approach because I will still be doing regular deadlifts, just not all the time. What exactly or deadlifts off a platform? I don't think my gym has anything I could use for that.

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    I do deadlifts at home straight off the floor.

    BUT if tried to go extra heavy yesterday and give myself a little help so I put the weights onto a couple of bricks to give that extra 6 inches.

    I'm sure there's be something at your gym to use. Even a smith machine might work.

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