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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Its no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Hex Bar vs Olympic Straight Bar for DLs

    Which is more benificial for doing dead lifts, an olympic bar or a hex bar? Just wondering.

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    It doesn't really matter. The two lifts are very similar.
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    The olympic bar will stress your hamstrings and back a bit more since the weight is forced in front of your body. Hex bars are considered more of a squat/deadlift hybrid. If I had one I would be using it religiously, seems to be a more effective hip flexor/leg lift than regular deads.
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    Personally I prefer a straight bar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteman90909
    Which is more benificial for doing dead lifts, an olympic bar or a hex bar? Just wondering.
    Not sure I even understand the question...

    For most people, there is not a lot of transfer from the hex bar to straight bar and vice-versa. At a recent push-pull meet I went to, I was surprised to see an 800lb deadlifter struggle to get 600 off the floor.

    As far as athletic application, I would say that if you are squatting, then you would probably benefit more from doing straight bar deadlifts than hex bar.
    A child does not learn to squat from the top down. In other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and make the conscious decision to stand. Squatting precedes standing in the developmental sequence. This is the way a child's brain learns to use the body as the child develops movement patterns. Therefore, a child is probably crawling, rocks back into a squatting position with the back completely relaxed and the hips completely flexed, and stands when he has enough hip strength. This approach makes a lot of sense and can be applied to relearning the deep squat movement if it is lost. -Gray Cook
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    hex bar was always a favorite for me because you usually use less of your back muscles. I also think its safer if you lose your grip on really heavy weight. Other then that they are identical. I just started doing deads again last week and i have to use straight bar. Eh, beggers can't be choosers.

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    straight bar if your doing squats...hex bar causes IMHO deadlift to be too much like squat when deadlift should be a whole other exercise...plus straight bar for teh w1n
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    deffinatly straight bar, one of my friends said he has done 425 on the hex bar in the school gym, so we tried straight bar and 315 went up very slow.
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    Don't forget about CNS efficiency. If you randomly try a different exercise, you're not going to be magically strong with it. After two workouts it's not uncommon to pile on a LOT of weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadlifter
    Don't forget about CNS efficiency. If you randomly try a different exercise, you're not going to be magically strong with it. After two workouts it's not uncommon to pile on a LOT of weight.
    :withstupi

    Hex bar deadlifts are a great exercise, don't diss them! They are a great way to make deadlifts part of your leg routine without annihilating your back.
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    I would think the mechanics of the trap bar vs. the straight bar would indeed make the trap bar deadlift more of a squat from the floor. I do the standard straight bar deadlift on Tuesdays and squat on Fridays, and I've never been happier with my strength and build.

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    should these be done on leg day or back day? is it alright if i do them on back day? i do notice that my back gets a workout from them.
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    Really depends on your goals. If you want to be a powerlifter, I'd say don't even touch a hex bar, it will screw you up too much.

    If you're a football player or other strength athlete, hex bar deadlifts would be great since you can genrally lift more weight with them than with a straight bar.

    If you're just bbing, then it doesn't matter much. Just do them heavy.

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