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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Best routine for cutting...

    I'm about to embark on my cut to 180-185lbs and I'm trying to figure out the best routine for maintaining mass and adding strength. I figured a variation of Bill Starr's 5x5 would be optimal, tell me what you guys think:

    Day 1 - (heavy) squat 5x5, decline bench press 5x5, bent over rows 5x5

    Day 2 - (light) deadlift 5x5, pullups 5x5, military press 5x5

    Day 3 - (medium) squat 5x5, bent over rows 5x5, decline press 5x5

    Day 4 - (medium) deadlift 5x5, pullups 5x5, incline db press 5x5

    1-2 days of rest between workouts

    For the heavy squats I'll be working up to a heavy set close to my 5 rep max. For medium squats I'll pick a lighter weight and do 5x5 with it, nothing too close to failure. Deadlifts will definately be submaximal, but I still plan to increase 5lbs a week on them if possible. If needed, I'll do supplemental work after the main workouts or on off days. I'll also be playing basketball/football/raquetball/soccer some days, probably nothing too intense.

    Should I alternate between picking a weight and doing 5x5 with it and working up to around a 5 rep max every other workout with the other exercises?
    Last edited by Meat_Head; 03-30-2006 at 02:44 PM.
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    I figure whichever methods helped you pack on the most muscle are the best methods to help maintain it when cutting. Unless you're doing something like UD 2.0
    "I added some db curls with the pink weights for a bit of a burn." - Rookiebldr

    "im assuming the holy (big) 3 are: curls, bench, legs?" - Saggas

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    "most of my burned calories coming from something called Basal. Wtf does a leaf have to do with any of it?" - Votorx

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    That actually looks pretty good - short sets, low-ish volume, varying intensity.

    I'll be interested to see how that works for you.

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    that routine looks good. as far weight goes, i've done both. Im starting to like grabbing a certain weight and lifting it for 5 sets, for however reps I can do.
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    Cool, I'll get started on it ASAP. Can anyone think of a better way to vary the intensity, or any other changes you think would be beneficial? If not, I'll just leave it as it is.
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    you could add in an arms day


    (complete joke) looks good i would try it and then make changes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xMeat_Headx
    I'm about to embark on my cut to 180-185lbs and I'm trying to figure out the best routine for maintaining mass and adding strength. I figured a variation of Bill Starr's 5x5 would be optimal, tell me what you guys think:

    Day 1 - (heavy) squat 5x5, decline bench press 5x5, bent over rows 5x5

    Day 2 - (light) deadlift 5x5, pullups 5x5, military press 5x5

    Day 3 - (medium) squat 5x5, bent over rows 5x5, decline press 5x5

    Day 4 - (medium) deadlift 5x5, pullups 5x5, incline db press 5x5

    1-2 days of rest between workouts

    For the heavy squats I'll be working up to a heavy set close to my 5 rep max. For medium squats I'll pick a lighter weight and do 5x5 with it, nothing too close to failure. Deadlifts will definately be submaximal, but I still plan to increase 5lbs a week on them if possible. If needed, I'll do supplemental work after the main workouts or on off days. I'll also be playing basketball/football/raquetball/soccer some days, probably nothing too intense.

    Should I alternate between picking a weight and doing 5x5 with it and working up to around a 5 rep max every other workout with the other exercises?
    This looks like a great idea, I was considering a 5X5 routine myself and I believe you have helped me a lot!! Thanks!

    And I will dare to ask the serious question: Why no arms in the routine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1997T-Bird
    This looks like a great idea, I was considering a 5X5 routine myself and I believe you have helped me a lot!! Thanks!

    And I will dare to ask the serious question: Why no arms in the routine?
    Glad to hear I helped! My arms grow like weeds from nothing but compounds, so there's no need to add extra work for them. If you do need some, you could do it after the main workouts as supplemental work.
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    why not do weighted dips instead of decline bench?

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    the litvinov looks awesome, and i can see where they are coming from when they say it might seem too easy, i might have to try this sometime if i can muster enough energy to bring all the weights i need outside.
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