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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Equal Opportunity Offender Budiak's Avatar
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    Deadlift plateau

    This seems to come up a lot...but I cant go any further on my deadlift. I've gotten up to 225 lbs, but I cant do any more than six, sometimes no more than 5 at a time without losing grip on the bar. Chalk is not allowed, gloves dont do any good either. My hands are too small to use straps. Does anybody have any idea wtf I'm supposed to do in order to increase grip strength?

    A little earlier, Mystic Eric told me to load up the bar with weight( I guess my deadlift weight) and pick it up and just hold it for about 20 seconds, and do that twice, maybe 3 times a week.
    I know I can lift more with my back and legs, my pathetic girly hands just totally give out on me, they're like the Fiat of hands.


    Help.

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    Gaglione Strength Chris Rodgers's Avatar
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    Yea, do the static holds that Eric suggested. You don't have to deadlift it off the floor though. Just put the bar in the rack a little lowerthan your lockout. ift it up a few inches and hold on for dear life.

    Are you already using a mixed grip? If so you ain't lying, your grip is gay.

    Read my journal. I've been doing a lot of grip/forearm stuff lately at the end of my sessions. I perfrom holds 2 times per week. I love em. Did em with 200 lb ghetto-rigged dumbells today. Just to show you up, maybe I'll try 225 per hand next week...or maybe not.
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 535 SQ 300 BE 570 DL.....1400 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    545 SQ 305 BE 585 DL

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    Re: Deadlift plateau

    Originally posted by Budiak


    A little earlier, Mystic Eric told me to load up the bar with weight( I guess my deadlift weight) and pick it up and just hold it for about 20 seconds, and do that twice, maybe 3 times a week.
    I know I can lift more with my back and legs, my pathetic girly hands just totally give out on me, they're like the Fiat of hands.


    Help.
    Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa! I never said 2-3 times a week!! I said I do them once a week after back!

    And as well, I think you would benefit from an over-under grip.

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    Gaglione Strength Chris Rodgers's Avatar
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    2-3 times per week is fine too. Whatever you like. Depends on how much you want to prioritize increasing your grip.
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 535 SQ 300 BE 570 DL.....1400 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    545 SQ 305 BE 585 DL

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    Yeah if you're not using an alternating grip, we all get to slap you.

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    I always hated the alternating grip...just feels fooked. I just use straps...guess it sucks having girly little hands.

    Try the static holds.

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    cack do you ever actually go to the gym or do you just throw beer cans out your window at passing police officers?


    200 lbs per hand latman? dang...time to start static holding

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    Yea. With all the time and effort it took to hook up my 200 lb ghetto dumbells, I had no choice but to lift them. Gotta try 225 next week.
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 535 SQ 300 BE 570 DL.....1400 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    545 SQ 305 BE 585 DL

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    How do you ghetto rig dumbells?
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    Well, I own hexhead dumbells. The highest I have is 110's. So I used my bands to fix a 60 lb dumbell to each 110. Making 170 lb bells. Then, since that was easy, I added another 30 lbs of plates to each side by using small chain and more bands. 200 in each hand.

    In the ghettooooo(Cartman voice).
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 535 SQ 300 BE 570 DL.....1400 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    545 SQ 305 BE 585 DL

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    Originally posted by LATMAN
    Well, I own hexhead dumbells. The highest I have is 110's. So I used my bands to fix a 60 lb dumbell to each 110. Making 170 lb bells. Then, since that was easy, I added another 30 lbs of plates to each side by using small chain and more bands. 200 in each hand.

    In the ghettooooo(Cartman voice).
    LOL..

    Sounds pretty interesting. Do you prefer doing static holds with dumbells instead of barbells?

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    Gaglione Strength Chris Rodgers's Avatar
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    Well, that was my first try with heavy dumbells. I liked it, just a b*tch to setup.

    I'm going to continue to do both.
    Best Meet Lifts(Raw w/wraps):
    @165- 435 SQ 270 BE 560 DL.....1255 total
    @181- 535 SQ 300 BE 570 DL.....1400 total
    Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
    @148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
    @165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
    @181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
    Best Gym Lifts(Raw w/wraps)
    545 SQ 305 BE 585 DL

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    How can your hands be to small for straps???? Maybe your just not using them right?

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    Unless your wrists are wider than your hands, you should not have a problem using straps. How do you use them BTW?

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    Of course I use the alternating grip, and you know what? I've never noticed a difference in the hold between an alternating grip and if both hands face the same direction.

    For some reason, straps just seem to make the weright slide right out of my hand, they've never worked. I dont have enough of my hand touching the bar, so it seems, so it just slides out...but maybe its just dark magic or something.


    I did deadlifts the other day, (I've recently moved and I havent posted in a few days), and I switched my grip directions, and I actually noticed a bit of a difference.

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    You sure you're wrapping the bar with the straps properly? You need to wrap in the opposite direction that you fingers are going so that your grip pulls the strap which then transfers the weight to your wrist (if that makes any sense). I've noticed when using straps even with very heavy weights, it doesn't take much grip strength at all to hold on because friction does most of the work...
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    i kno ive revived a post from 2002 lol but anyways...

    is it better to do deadlifts w/o gloves? is there more grip w/ or w/o gloves?
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    Squat: 335 pounds x 3 reps

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    gloves may help with grip, but chalk is a way better alternative
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    If you can't use chalk, get an eco ball. If you hide it in your bag and nobody sees it, nobody will know. It works almost as well as chalk, but won't leave any dust.

    Stats: Age: 34 Weight: 205 Height: 5'6"
    Gym PRs: Squat:635 Bench:560 Deadlift:495
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    Quote Originally Posted by drew
    If you can't use chalk, get an eco ball. If you hide it in your bag and nobody sees it, nobody will know. It works almost as well as chalk, but won't leave any dust.
    I've never even heard of an eco ball. Looked online and they seem pretty cool. I'll have to try one out.
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    They're not better than chalk at all, but better than nothing if you can't use chalk.

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    Meet PRs: Squat:575 Bench:525 Deadlift:510 Total: 1605@220

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    Quote Originally Posted by drew
    They're not better than chalk at all, but better than nothing if you can't use chalk.
    Anything to help out with greasy gym bars is fine with me.
    "The only easy day was yesterday."

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    I used gloves in teh beginning, but they're taking away a precious bit of space from my grip. I don't have any hand length to spare, so I took them off. My hands have always met the challenge since...no gloves, no straps, no chalk.
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    yeah im thinkin of going jus bare hands...
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    Squat: 335 pounds x 3 reps

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    Gloves will not improve your grip strength, they will actually hinder it.
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