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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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  1. #1
    eater of food dw06wu's Avatar
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    Holy crap..check out today's CF WOD

    "Linda"

    10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 reps of the triplet:

    Deadlift: 1 1/2 body weight
    Bench press: body weight
    Clean: 3/4 body weight

    Set up three bars and storm through for time.


    ummm yeah. That's gonna suck.
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    For me, that'd be 315 on the deads, 210 on the bench, and about 160 on the cleans.


    I could power clean those reps, but not a full clean with the front squat. I can bench 210 for 2 if I'm fresh, and those reps on deads would take me FOREVER.

    Linda is one strong bitch.

    I bet she's also about 95lbs..
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    55 reps of each... yeah, that would pretty much take me all day and I'd be sore for 2 weeks. Probably won't be doing that anytime soon.
    A child does not learn to squat from the top down. In other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and make the conscious decision to stand. Squatting precedes standing in the developmental sequence. This is the way a child's brain learns to use the body as the child develops movement patterns. Therefore, a child is probably crawling, rocks back into a squatting position with the back completely relaxed and the hips completely flexed, and stands when he has enough hip strength. This approach makes a lot of sense and can be applied to relearning the deep squat movement if it is lost. -Gray Cook
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    I've only done Linda once and it was when I first started Crossfit and 2 days after some max effort deadlifts ... needless to say, she knocked me on my ass. I think my time was around 52 minutes, which is absolutely horrible. An ideal time would be in the 15-30 minute range.

    I'm pretty confident I would fly through this now, but it will have to wait until my foot is 100%.

    Moving to GPP ...
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    I sacled it back to ~75% of the Rx and still got into the 40 min mark. It was fun though!
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    Bench - 90s*7 ----------------- 100s*5
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    Very few people, even including most crossfitters, can do linda as prescribed.

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    If I were to start from scratch as a young 13 year old again, I would do every press, squat, and perhaps deadlifts, for my entire career with chains. -- Dan John

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    I haven't done Linda yet (doesn't fit in well with what I'm doing right now CF and 5x5 wise), but I think I could probably finish it, although it would take me awhile. Bench and cleans probably wouldn't be any problem, but the deadlift would take me awhile.
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    I couldn't bench my bw for 10 reps, thats the only thing that would hold me back. Cleans and deads, simple.

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    Your sets can be broken, risk, so you could do 5 reps of bench, take a break, then 5 more. Although I think you are highly underestimating the combination of deads/bench/cleans!
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    I don't doubt for a second that it would destroy me for a second, the fatigue for me would be at pukey levels. If I did do something like that, I would like to be at a level of strength to do it as rx'd - But I'm a kooky kind of guy.

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    As rx'd just means you used the prescribed weight/reps. It's EXTREMELY rare to finish a WOD without broken sets (some of the xfit machines do it, but they aren't human).

    So for you (200lbs bw?), that would be:

    300lbs deadlift
    200lbs bench
    150lbs clean

    As long as you used that weight and finished all sets/reps, you'd be "as rx'd"

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    I'm at 350lbs deadlift, 235 bench, and 175 clean. Deadlift wouldnt be a problem and I can power clean 175 easy so those two wouldnt be a problem. However, 235-lb bench is near my Max-OT working set nowadays since I'm so weak and haven't really trained it in a while. And that is a lot of freaking bench reps.
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    PS yesterday's workout was a 10k run, so your legs will probably be screaming at you already.
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    Cut: Start/250 Current/247
    Abs or bust: my journal
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    I'm not saying ya'll couldn't up a good time, but I think some people are seriously underestimating this WOD.

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    I wrote a big explanation on why you can't look at each piece invidually and say it's easy. But there's a better way to explain ...


    try it.


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    I have a healthy respect for Linda, especially seeing as how the DL and bench numbers are close to my maxes, and I've never even cleaned in my life. I'm not doing this one just yet (after I work on cleans for a month or so, maybe), but maybe you could help me out here, Anthony. Scaling-wise, what should I be shooting for? My 10-rep max on each lift, or maybe something even heavier, so I could break every set and just absolutely kill myself? I'm thinking at this point that doing a slow time with my 5x5 max would be a good starting point - it'd be something like:

    Deadlift (245 lb)
    5+5, 5+4, 5+3, 4+3, 3+2+1...
    Bench (180 lb)
    5+5, 5+4....
    Clean (whatever I determine)

    Good start?

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    SF, what's your body weight?

    Based on your signature I think your planned weight is WAY too high. You'll be lucky to finish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony
    SF, what's your body weight?

    Based on your signature I think your planned weight is WAY too high. You'll be lucky to finish.
    This is why I'm asking wellllllll before I think about doing it. I'm about 195 - would you shoot more for whatever my 10 rep max is? Or just something reasonably comfortable for the first time?

    The more I think about my deads, I think that I'm starting too heavy there, definitely. I don't think I'm necessarily killing myself on the bench, although I'd have to grind those last 4 sets out pretty painfully.

    Crap, I didn't think about the fact that the clean will 2x kill me on my deads.
    200-150-100, or thereabouts, for my first Linda will probably smoke me plenty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skinny Fat
    My 10-rep max on each lift, or maybe something even heavier, so I could break every set and just absolutely kill myself?
    Start with your 12-15RM on each lift.

    You can break up the sets but the point is that it is heavy and fast. It is already 30 total sets. You don't need many more.

    It is not supposed to be max effort lifts. There are WODs for those. Linda is not it.

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    I think you'd do well with 70% of the rx'd values.

    So, something like

    205 dead
    135 bench
    100 clean
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    I'm not even saying I could put a good time. I'm just saying I could complete it sooner or later, minus the bench. Probably around an hour-ish.
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    You haven't tried yet?
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    UI missed yesterday, so 10k is up today.
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    Cut: Start/250 Current/247
    Abs or bust: my journal
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    I'd like to see the freak that could complete that workout in under 30 minutes. That's insanity, crossfit makes me feel weak
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    I did it back in Jan at a BW of 212 and I used (about 75% of Rx)

    DL-235
    BP-155
    CL-115

    Time was 43:10

    My spinal erectors were shot for almost a week! Its was crazy. The bench could have been heavier though.
    Current Stats --------------- Training Goals: Improve athletic conditioning.
    Squat - 305lbs - 1/23/06 ----- 335
    Deadlift - 415lbs - 2/4/06 ---- 435
    Bench - 90s*7 ----------------- 100s*5
    Weight - 208 ------------------ 190
    Height - 5'10"

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