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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    What's the most weight? Squats, deadlifts, or bench press?

    Just wondering what is the exercise that people usually lift the most weight on. I'm about to buy a new barbell, and, I'm wondering whether a 300-lb capacity barbell set is fine, or should I go higher than that because I may be deadlifting or squatting more than I bench press. I currently don't bench press 300, so, I'm wondering if I'll work my other exercises up higher than that. Basically, what exercise usually has people lifting the most weight out of the three?

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    Your deadlift and squat should both be quite a bit higher than your bench. You'll probably deadlift more than 300 relatively quickly.

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    Yeah squats and deadlifts are usually comparable in weight and much more than bench. I don't know how heavy you can lift but it's probably not a good idea to buy an olympic bar that can't hold less than 500lbs.
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    deadlift, squat, than bench.

    some folks have their squats close (or higher) to their deadlifts though.

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    most ppl i see have deadlift, squat, then bench...

    includin me
    Age: 25
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    Weight: 175lbs
    Body Fat around 12%
    Biceps: 14.5"
    Chest: 38"

    Bench Press: 225 x 10 reps and 275 pounds x 1 rep
    Deadlift: 405 pounds x 1 rep
    Squat: 335 pounds x 3 reps

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    It's deadlift, squat, bench, until you get super-huge-powerful, then it's squat, DL, bench.

    And yes, you'll deadlift over 300 pretty quickly (at least less than a year).

    Don't ask for a lighter load. Ask for a stronger back.


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    Quote Originally Posted by UrbanSmooth
    Just wondering what is the exercise that people usually lift the most weight on. I'm about to buy a new barbell, and, I'm wondering whether a 300-lb capacity barbell set is fine, or should I go higher than that because I may be deadlifting or squatting more than I bench press. I currently don't bench press 300, so, I'm wondering if I'll work my other exercises up higher than that. Basically, what exercise usually has people lifting the most weight out of the three?
    If you can, get a barbell that you can use for more weight. If you are squatting and deadlifting, you'll probably outgrow that weight set pretty quickly unless you like doing a lot of high reps.
    A child does not learn to squat from the top down. In other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and make the conscious decision to stand. Squatting precedes standing in the developmental sequence. This is the way a child's brain learns to use the body as the child develops movement patterns. Therefore, a child is probably crawling, rocks back into a squatting position with the back completely relaxed and the hips completely flexed, and stands when he has enough hip strength. This approach makes a lot of sense and can be applied to relearning the deep squat movement if it is lost. -Gray Cook
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    Im ashamed to say this but ive done deadlift 3 times in my life I hate it with a passion
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    Bench 245 -------255-----300(reached 225x6 june 14th)
    Squat 350 -------injured----450
    Deadlift 315 ------injured----370


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    Get yourself a nice olympic bar and you won't regret it. It should hold all the weight you'll ever need.
    5'9" 195 lbs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bam
    Im ashamed to say this but ive done deadlift 3 times in my life I hate it with a passion
    why!? deadlifting is awesome!!
    Age: 25
    Height: 5'7"
    Weight: 175lbs
    Body Fat around 12%
    Biceps: 14.5"
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    Bench Press: 225 x 10 reps and 275 pounds x 1 rep
    Deadlift: 405 pounds x 1 rep
    Squat: 335 pounds x 3 reps

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    I think I have a pelvic tilt that makes my lower back always being tight. When I do deadlifts I can do a lot but man afterward I walk for a day like I got a stick up my ass.
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    Bench.........225x1...............275x1.................?
    Squat...........?.......................?....................365x5
    Deadlift........?.....................315x5...............435x5
    Weight........180...................192...................185
    BF%.............?......................12.....................12
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    ROFL.

    Anyway, thanks for the feedback, guys, I think I will go for that 1,000-LB capacity bar.

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    I think the squat should be equivalent or greater than the deadlift, but its different for everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xMeat_Headx
    I think the squat should be equivalent or greater than the deadlift, but its different for everyone.
    As long as they are higher than your bench

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    Word to that!
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    definetly deadlift, squat, then bench and also wut kind of bench/squat rack do you have cuz u want something that will safely hold the weight you are gonna get.
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    Bench: 275 | Squat: 355 | Clean: 240 | Deadlift: 455 | Body Weight-205lbs
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    Is that really your signature?

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    i don't deserve a sig until i gain some damn WEIGHT

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    rbar, your signature makes my nipples hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinStarke
    rbar, your signature makes my nipples hurt.
    :withstupi...jesus christ man, we don't need to know your god damn life story.
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    Usually its DL, Squat, Bench, but in the case of a lot of powerlifters it can be Squat, DL, Bench.
    Status: Cutting...Heavily

    "Squats make the ghetto booty"-Me
    "No matter how much you lift, just remember that on the other side of the world, a little chinese girl is warming up with your max"-bIgHwN86
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    That's what sways me optimum, if at the highest level the squat is 100-200lbs higher than the deadlift, its probably supposed to be stronger!
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    mine is deadlift 1st squat 2nd and bench 3rd. If I was doing parallel squats I would be about equal with squats and deads. Someday I just wanna break over the 600 mark atf squats, now that would be awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xMeat_Headx
    That's what sways me optimum, if at the highest level the squat is 100-200lbs higher than the deadlift, its probably supposed to be stronger!
    If I had to guess, I would say that's because gear helps the squat more than the deadlift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khari
    If I had to guess, I would say that's because gear helps the squat more than the deadlift.
    My squat is higher than my deadlift and I've never touched gear...

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