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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Senior Member charles_316's Avatar
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    will lifts decrease on a cut?

    since calorie intake decreases on a cut, does that mean ppl's lifts will go down as well?

    or is it possible for one to continue increasing lifts while looking good for the summer lol
    Age: 25
    Height: 5'7"
    Weight: 175lbs
    Body Fat around 12%
    Biceps: 14.5"
    Chest: 38"

    Bench Press: 225 x 10 reps and 275 pounds x 1 rep
    Deadlift: 405 pounds x 1 rep
    Squat: 335 pounds x 3 reps

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    Wrecker of Homes d'Anconia's Avatar
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    Depends how hard you are cutting. Suffice to say that the smaller the deficit (closer to maintenance), the more likely your lifts will maintain (and sometimes you can even get a slight increase).
    ...........||High School||.....||July '05||.......||January '09||
    Bench.........225x1...............275x1.................?
    Squat...........?.......................?....................365x5
    Deadlift........?.....................315x5...............435x5
    Weight........180...................192...................185
    BF%.............?......................12.....................12
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    Depends on length, severity, etc of the cut. If you do it long and slow you will probably be able to maintain. If you want to cut fast then expect to lose some LBM.
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    they are likely to go down, especially on the last sets when you get more tired
    my exprience - joined gym 10 years ago, 6 1/2 years hard weight training exprience.

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    ive definately lost a bit of strength since ive started cutting, although this could be down to the fact that i have recently started doing squats and deads and i may have screwed my cns
    23 yo 6 2", 258lbs

    Feb' 06......................................Mar' 06......july 06
    bench 270lb x 1..........................275x3........315x4
    deadlift 260lb x 1........................275x1........418x1
    db shoulder press 88x3................94x3..........100x7
    atf squat - ...............................................308x5

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    So far every one of these posts is pretty much right on, IMO.
    Diet is key, the calorie is king

    "Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be."
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    "Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent.
    Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination
    alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'press on' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race."
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    In theory it would be possible to get stronger on a cut. In practice this may be possible for a more intermidiate lifter, but I cannot see an advanced lifter maintaning full strength on a cut, if anything maintaining or only losing a little strength would be something to shoot for.
    PRs: 655/525/645 = 1825 Total
    Meet PRs: Bench Only 525

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    My experience with cutting is that you should not do it ever.

    Barring that, I always would get really tired during a cut. I generally lift after work, so I would always plan my meals so that I would eat something immediately after work (like on the way home) and then lift right away whil eI had something in me. I also did a LOT more sleeping to make up for all the energy I was expending. Caffeine is also your best friend during a cut (and always!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
    Last edited by drew; 04-26-2006 at 04:03 PM.

    Stats: Age: 34 Weight: 205 Height: 5'6"
    Gym PRs: Squat:635 Bench:560 Deadlift:495
    Meet PRs: Squat:575 Bench:525 Deadlift:510 Total: 1605@220

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    Saturday will make 7 weeks of uninterrupted cutting for me. Before the cut, I was building my bench back up to a previous best of 225 x 1 (which was done during maintenance a few months before), my deadlift best all-time was 335, and squat best was 205 x 2.

    I've dropped 13lbs over 7 weeks, as of the last weigh-in. I've done 215 x 1 on the decline bench (after doing my flat sets), 385 x 1 and 365 for two singles on deads, and 225 x 2 on squat as a last set.

    I've been about 1000 below maintenance, purely from diet. I've been very consistent. I've had decent energy. I would say, though, that if I was really loading up on carbs pre-workout I could best all of these numbers. I'm generally taking in no more than 30-40 carbs before a workout during the cut, so energy is just enough to get me through it without feeling like poo.

    I guess I've gained a bit of strength while cutting--I cenrtainly haven't lost any. I'm quite sure my bench has plateaued, though, which is fine. Benching what I do without having ever been on a bulk is fine by me. The squat I expect to continue to rise during the cut, until I'm repping 225. The deads I've given up on until the end of the cut because my recovery ability is horrible without more food, but I'm happy with where they ended up as well.

    I think it really just depends on the person and the experience. Some people have a crazy metabolic rate that just wants to eat that muscle. Some others (like me) never seem to lose muscle, no matter what stupid **** they try. Others may lose a little bit. It's really just a crapshoot, until you try it.
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