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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Bodyfat went from 8% to 14% in 10 weeks

    is it normal to gain 6% bodyfat in 10 weeks of bulking?

    when i started just over 2 months ago i wieghted 130 pounds with only 8% bodyfat, bodyfat has been gradually going up and today this week it hit 14.1%! at 148 pounds. i still want to gain alot more but should i start doing cardio? the way things are going ill be 20% bodyfat before i hit 165pounds. i eat alot of chicken, eggs, alot of my carbs are from noodles. i go for around 2500-3000 calories a day. but is this normal to gain that much bodyfat?

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    Were you doing weightlifting?

    What routine?

    edit: also, how are you measuring this body fat change? If it's with electric resistance, handheld gadgets or magic BF% scales then disregard it. It's not normal at all to go from 6% to 14% that fast.
    Last edited by Davidelmo; 05-02-2006 at 11:53 AM.

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    How are you having that tested, because chances are it's not accurate.

    But more importantly how do you look to yourself, are you happy with your progress. If you feel fine then keep the diet clean keep making progress in the gym and keep bulking. Who cares what a bul**** machine says (you most likely had this done through BIA)
    Diet is key, the calorie is king

    "Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be."
    --Abraham Lincoln

    "Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent.
    Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination
    alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'press on' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race."
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    Yeah it would seem that you are gaining more fat than muscle if the estimates are right. I highly doubt they are correct. You got pics at all?
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    Bench.........225x1...............275x1.................?
    Squat...........?.......................?....................365x5
    Deadlift........?.....................315x5...............435x5
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    I been using a BIA electronic scale, itís the same scale I been using the whole time, I didnít think it was accurate ether but I found a web site that told my body fat at 14% when I entered my waist size(31Ē) and weight. Im surprised I donít think I look like 14% I have never had high body fat I have also been really really skinny 148 is the highest I been so far. My stomach is starting to look a little fat though and I lost my skin pack that I had when I was at 130 pounds. I been doing that WBB 1 routine and I would switch it up everyone once in a while to -chest/tri -legs -shoulders -back/bi. <<this was routine i did most of the time.

    Again im happy with how I look (besides stomach) its just the way things are going im afraid my BF% will keep getting higher and my stomach is starting to not look very good

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    Just don't eat quite as much if you are worried about it. I doubt you actually gained as much as the BF scale is telling you. Those things are terribly inaccurate and unreliable.

    Like smalls said, go by the mirror not the scale.
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    acoording to your measurements you started at a lbm of just under 120lbs, and now youve gone up to a lbm of just over 127, thats a lean gain of 7lbs and a gain of 11lbs of fat. Either your doing something wrong, eating something wrong, or your measuring wrong, or more likely a bit of all 3.

    You cant measure bf% by waist size i wouldnt trust those equations, and those electric things are not accurate either. More than likely you where over 8% when you started and your under 14% now, but ask yourself how much those numbers really mean to you compared with your visual assessment of where you are and where you want to be.

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    So, (assuming your bf% measurement is accurate, which it likely is not ...) you've gone from 120 lbs of LBM to 127 lbs of LBM with a fat gain of 8.73 lbs.That's not bad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Built
    So, (assuming your bf% measurement is accurate, which it likely is not ...) you've gone from 120 lbs of LBM to 127 lbs of LBM with a fat gain of 8.73 lbs.That's not bad!
    That's quite bad isn't it?

    I'd hope for more than 1lb of muscle for every 1lb of fat!

    Especially since he's just strating out.. unless he was doing something horribly horribly wrong, putting on those first 10lbs of muscle isn't *that* hard if you've never lifted/eaten properly before.

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    LOL sometimes I suspect that I am gaining more fat than muscle. But then again I wouldn't be surprised as my diet is pretty much garbage.
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    Bench.........225x1...............275x1.................?
    Squat...........?.......................?....................365x5
    Deadlift........?.....................315x5...............435x5
    Weight........180...................192...................185
    BF%.............?......................12.....................12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Built
    I'd be THRILLED with a pound for a pound.

    But you're a girl

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    I just weighted in again, normally I only weight myself in the morning, just a minute ago the scale read

    Wieght- 150.5
    BodyFat%- 14.7
    Water%- 60.8

    age- 19
    Hight- 5,9" or 5,10" i dont know for sure


    This is me with my abs flexed








    Some before and after pictures, bulking for almost 3 months, in the 3 months theirs was 3 and a half weeks were i didnít lift, one week i was sick, 1 week i ran out of food lol, and one week i took half of it off, so it wasnít a solid 11 weeks is what im trying to say.

    Before(2-13-06)- 130lbs 8.6% bodyfat
    After(5-2-06)- 150lbs 14.7% bodyfat

    before
    http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL718/.../143898277.jpg
    after
    http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL718/.../143900777.jpg
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    before
    http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL718/.../143898271.jpg
    after
    http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL718/.../143900762.jpg



    Before Arm (relaxed)
    http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL718/.../143898265.jpg
    After Arm (semi flexed)
    http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL718/.../143900771.jpg
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    Before Back
    http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL718/.../143898253.jpg
    After Back
    http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL718/.../143907444.jpg
    http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL718/.../143900751.jpg


    *Legs*
    i didnít take any before pics of my legs unfortunately, i think batteries on my camera died before i could, and i didnít end up taking any after ether , but my legs are definitely strong point i think, they exploded. i think they are little bit ahead of my upper body right now actually.


    so looking at where i am right now, would you say i need to start doing some cardio? do i look like 14% bodyfat? anything i need to work on? i have never really been happy with my chest, i know thats prolly laggin alittle what yall think?
    or should i just keep doing what im doing and worry about cardio later when im at least 160, 170?...

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    I think you look lower than 14%.

    Bro, get over your little scale. The only real respectable way to measure bodyfat % is with hydrostatic submersion.
    ...........||High School||.....||July '05||.......||January '09||
    Bench.........225x1...............275x1.................?
    Squat...........?.......................?....................365x5
    Deadlift........?.....................315x5...............435x5
    Weight........180...................192...................185
    BF%.............?......................12.....................12
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    I don't care what BF% you are. Your after pics look better than your before pics, hands down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedSpikeyThing
    I don't care what BF% you are. Your after pics look better than your before pics, hands down.

    hey thanks a lot, I just wish I could of took better pictures, its real hard taking pictures in a mirror, especially trying to get a back shot lol

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    I'd say 12% tops. It doesn't look like you've gained much fat at all honestly. Keep doing what you're doing.
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    Age: 22 Height: 5'-8" Weight: 175 (6-10-07)
    BF: 13.2% (6-10-07 w/ calipers)

    Lifts
    Bench: 300x1 (9-22-06)
    Squat: 285x4
    Deadlift: 225x10

    Long-term Goals
    Weight: 180 BF: 8% Bench: 315x1

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    Quote Originally Posted by D'Anconia
    I think you look lower than 14%.

    Bro, get over your little scale. The only real respectable way to measure bodyfat % is with hydrostatic submersion.
    DEXA is even better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Built
    DEXA is even better.
    Does insurance cover DEXA?
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    Age: 22 Height: 5'-8" Weight: 175 (6-10-07)
    BF: 13.2% (6-10-07 w/ calipers)

    Lifts
    Bench: 300x1 (9-22-06)
    Squat: 285x4
    Deadlift: 225x10

    Long-term Goals
    Weight: 180 BF: 8% Bench: 315x1

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    What's DEXA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LouPac
    What's DEXA?
    from http://exercise.about.com/cs/weightloss/a/bodyfat.htm

    DEXA (dual energy X-ray absorptiometry)

    This test is used to measure bone density, but it also measures body fat percentage as well as where most of your fat is (as if you didn't know). The facts about DEXA:

    * DEXA uses a whole body scanner and two different low-dose x-rays to read bone mass and soft tissue mass.
    * It takes about 10-20 minutes to do a body scan
    * It provides a high degree of precision with a 2-3 % margin of error.
    * This is considered a gold standard for measuring body fat and bone density
    * It's painless
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    Age: 22 Height: 5'-8" Weight: 175 (6-10-07)
    BF: 13.2% (6-10-07 w/ calipers)

    Lifts
    Bench: 300x1 (9-22-06)
    Squat: 285x4
    Deadlift: 225x10

    Long-term Goals
    Weight: 180 BF: 8% Bench: 315x1

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    2-3% is a lot to be off, might as well use calipers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LouPac
    2-3% is a lot to be off, might as well use calipers.
    I think it means 2-3% of the measured percent. Meaning if it read 10%, it could be 9.7% to 10.3%, not 7% to 13%.
    Stats
    Age: 22 Height: 5'-8" Weight: 175 (6-10-07)
    BF: 13.2% (6-10-07 w/ calipers)

    Lifts
    Bench: 300x1 (9-22-06)
    Squat: 285x4
    Deadlift: 225x10

    Long-term Goals
    Weight: 180 BF: 8% Bench: 315x1

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