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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Senior Member crazyskater52's Avatar
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    Diet soda?!?!

    Okay, I was wondering, is diet soda okay? Is there any way it makes you fatter slower or anything?
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    Most people here will tell you it's fine.

    Personally i like to avoid artificial sweetners.

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    wooooo, so I can have like a liter a day and be okay? I mean I'm not going to but, I bought 2 liter yesterday and I'm half done now, havnt had soda in forever and taste so good not to gain fat :-) So Just wondering maybe like a 1-3 cups a day is it okay? Or whats recomended
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    Just because it dosent have any calories does not mean its not horrible for your body. Salt has no calories and look how bad it is for you!

    But in modest amounts theres nothing wrong with salt or diet sodas. Having one or two a day is fine.

    -jordan
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    Yeah, I figured it'd be bad for you, but just wondering, okay thats cool, I'll prob have one a day or something, okay thanks alot! And very interesting article built
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    Is cutting down to 9% Jordanbcool's Avatar
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    I never salt anything I eat, it takes the flavor out of most foods.

    And that article doesnt say anything of the harmful effects from eating too much salt.

    It was interesting to learn that it has such a large part in building muscle though...

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    the media has pounded the “avoid salt” routine down your throat but you must
    understand, not only this is geared towards the “average person” - if you train
    and eat like a bodybuilder, you are not an average person"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordanbcool
    I never salt anything I eat, it takes the flavor out of most foods.
    Whaaaaaaaaaa?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordanbcool
    I never salt anything I eat, it takes the flavor out of most foods.
    That's unusual. Most people find the opposite.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jordanbcool
    And that article doesnt say anything of the harmful effects from eating too much salt.
    Exactly. That was the point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jordanbcool
    It was interesting to learn that it has such a large part in building muscle though...

    -jordan

    "This is important. I know, over the years
    the media has pounded the “avoid salt” routine down your throat but you must
    understand, not only this is geared towards the “average person” - if you train
    and eat like a bodybuilder, you are not an average person"
    I started extra-salting stuff last year for my first-ever successful cut.

    Mmmm… salt!

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    Salt is awesome.
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    Salt makes everything better.

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    I never salt anything I eat, it takes the flavor out of most foods.
    i think i know what you mean... the real distinct flavours are destroyed by the presence of salt....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dissipate
    i think i know what you mean... the real distinct flavours are destroyed by the presence of salt....
    Exactly. To me it just tastes.....like salt. It dosent enhance the flavor but usually overpowers it.

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    It trips me out when folks salt water mellon. I don't get that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Built
    I'm not convinced. Nothing in that article was backed up by sources or anything legit. I mean, it sounds all well and good because I love salt but until I really see something quality and legit that disproves the "salt myths" I will be avoiding it.

    There was one line I thought was interesting though:

    "The typical athlete that eats a disciplined diet low in fat is probably not benefiting from
    proper sodium intake as he should."

    How many bodybuilders do you know who are eating low fat diets?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Russow
    How many bodybuilders do you know who are eating low fat diets?
    Most of them, actually. The ones at my gym all seem shocked when I tell them I eat higher fats.

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    Is cutting down to 9% Jordanbcool's Avatar
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    In all fairness that article looked fine to me. I couldnt find anything wrong with it other then it didnt point out any reasons why too much salt is harmful.

    -jordan

    The lack of sources does raise eyebrows though.
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    Healthy people don't develop hypertension from increased salt consumption. It's like the "protein causes kidney damage" thing - it's true, if you're dealing with a pre-existing condition, but not true with healthy kidneys.
    Salt can't be patented, and it's cheap as hell. It's unlikely any big important studies are going to be done on it with BB - there's just no money to be made.

    I started salting the hell out of my food last year, in my forties. I cut well, felt good, didn't get high blood pressure (last time I checked it was 120 over 70) and let's face it - it's yummy as hell.


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    Healthy people don't develop hypertension from increased salt consumption.
    This is most definately true, a high sodium content in your blood causes more water to go into your blood stream, and thus increase your blood pressure TEMPORARILY, while the extra salt is present (salt is always present). Sodium can aggravate prexisting hypertension conditions, but in itself does not lead to hypertension.
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