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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Its no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    hmm, I like to be big!!!
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    The Best of the Cleanest.

    How much do u think a person of average genetics, without steroids drugs creatine etc. No Belt or special shirt, how much do u think a person like this could possibly hope to lift with like a lifetime to train in???

    I guess, this is a HUGE guess too, 350 lb bench, 500 lb squat, 500 lb deadlift.
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    higher...but i try not to limit myself...or others...
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    Much higher...I'd say if they trained correctly and ate correctly and did everything how they are supposed too....Average genetics? 400 bench, 525 squat, 575 deadlift.
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    My guess for someone with average genitics that is 5'10ish and 200lbs would be 350bench 500 squat 550 dead.
    Like elpietro said though i dont like to set limits on what i or others can accomplish. One guy i know went from a 250 squat 225 bench and 360 deadlift to a 650 squat, 415 bench and 630 deadlift in 4 years. I asked him at my last competition what he thought he could get up to and he just says as high as possible.
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    hmm, I like to be big!!!
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    lol i should have put a disclaimer about limits, I just wanted to see what you guys thought, why would i ever set a limit on myself? If I was really serious this would have gone to training and not GC
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    American cars are like fat people, sure, they have a lot of power, but they're not built well, and they have all that useless weight, plus they make both make funny noises.

    feel free to aim me, nejar462 im on a lot. Don't know much to warn you dudes, but im good at conversations.

    Belial in reference to Ronnie Coleman, "Some people say he still has blood in his steroid stream, but I doubt it. Gas isn't one of the side effects, but that massive bloated overly muscular freak of nature circus sideshow appearance might be what tips most people off."

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    Originally posted by heathj
    400 bench, 525 squat, 575 deadlift.

    I'd be pretty damn happy with that.

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    Well, I'm gonna get it by age 25

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    agree with el pietro, making goals is one thing but determing limits will only help you to underachieve.
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    Re: The Best of the Cleanest.

    Originally posted by nejar462
    How much do u think a person of average genetics, without steroids drugs creatine etc. No Belt or special shirt, how much do u think a person like this could possibly hope to lift with like a lifetime to train in???

    I guess, this is a HUGE guess too, 350 lb bench, 500 lb squat, 500 lb deadlift.



    Well, average genetics, by definition, are average, so I would say those numbers are a bit high. The average male is somewhere in the 5'9" range and weighs 150 ish lbs. This trainee, in my opinion, would probably be able to hit a 300 bench, 400 ish deadlift and squat (with perfect training and plenty of calories). Of course, your genetics vary by bodypart, so you could have a guy with average genetics for benching ability, but better than average for squat and average for deadlift etc. However, the guy who was completely average in all bodyparts would hit somewhere near the numbers I mentioned (in my opinion). If you think you are average, there is no way to know your potential until you try. I was no monster when I first started training (I a still am not), but I think I ended up proving to have better than average genetics for size and strength in most bodyparts.

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    True, but most people are average before they start working out and if they begin to start working out, they will gain muscle and most likely not be 150 lbs. anymore after multiple(5+) years of training and thus not average anymore.

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