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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Military press question...

    My question is, what's the proper for to do military press? The bar travels down behind the head, or in the front ?
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    Seated or Standing? Either way, I'm pretty sure you want the bar to go in front of you, not behind.
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    i do them standing, and always in front
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    Seated, I've seen people do both ways but I heard from my gym teacher back in high school that bringing the bar back behind your head can injure a rotator cuff or something (not like HS gym teachers are a reliable source of info but just looking for opinions)
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    They can be done both ways, but I think the traditional military press is done standing with the bar comming down just above your pecs.

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    Military is done standing.

    Seated is called shoulder press.

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    I do them standing and in front. I feel a lot more comfortable standing. I stabilize myself better. I did behind the neck presses for a while but it always felt awkward and injury prone.
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    Standing and in front is the best, standing allows you to use your core to stabalize and in front apparently doesn't put as much stress on your rotator cuff. I mean when is the last time you had to press something over your head behind your neck, it's just not natural.

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    Its called pushpress from the front, military from the back. Pushpress uses some chest while military is all shoulders; theres a risk for injury when doing it not only from strain but risk of the bar comming down on your head if you lose control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinkies
    Its called pushpress from the front, military from the back. Pushpress uses some chest while military is all shoulders; theres a risk for injury when doing it not only from strain but risk of the bar comming down on your head if you lose control.
    Not quite.

    A military press is simply an standing overhead press. However it is done with no body english or momentum. Miltary presses are usually done from the front. Also, along side the head with dumbbells. A strict military press is usually done with the heels of the feet together.




    Behind the neck presses are usually abbreviated BTN press, and are usually referred to this way, rather than military press.




    A push press is rather different, starting with a small knee dip and then upward drive to give the bar momentum, and the bar is then pressed to lock out.


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    ehh, just going by what i was always told almost identical lifts i guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinkies
    ehh, just going by what i was always told almost identical lifts i guess
    try them all, they are not identical

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    I've always wondered why the guy demonstrating on exrx.net is kinda fat and really hairy...hmm random thought
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingWilder
    I've always wondered why the guy demonstrating on exrx.net is kinda fat and really hairy...hmm random thought
    I know, he looks like a tool.

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    so which is better, seated or standing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WILL006
    so which is better, seated or standing?
    Standing is better, as it requires more effort to stabalize.

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    standing is alot more fun then seating imo, something makes you feel powerfull having the weight over your head

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    you work your core when you do them standing

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    Try them both then decide which way was more effective for YOU !!

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    seating hurts my tail bone,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Wescott
    Try them both then decide which way was more effective for YOU !!
    Standing wins hands down.

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    however if you want to push more weight, do them seated.

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    I too enjoy doing them standing
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    how much can u guys military press standing , the most i ever lifteed was 70kg (154lbs)

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    tyr them both ways, infront and behind, you get total work


    with proper shoulder flexibilty there is no more of a risk when lowering the bar behind your head than in front i use both and get good work from both
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