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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    weightlifting doesnt work :( HELP

    hey,
    iv been working out for a long time now. iv seen no gains in size since i started and its been a year of doing it on and off and now for the past 5 months iv been serious about it and still no gains iv tried chngin my workout and diet still nothing works no matter what!!!!! naturally im tall and skinny and iv attempted to fix that iv eated a bit more protien and fat and crabs.. iv lost my six pack n its jus fat around there but nothing went to my arms! so im going to try supplements or has any1 got anyother sugestions?
    and is this a good supplement ?

    http://store.maximuscle.com/epages/m...duct/View/1010

    if not tell me which to get from this website.....

    http://store.maximuscle.com/epages/m...40ac1001b10683

    for muscle mass, also im going to increase the intensity of my workout.
    and i do have enough rests! i workout 1 day rest the next.
    all help is greatly appreciated thanks

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    You need to eat FOOD! And lots of it.

    What are your current stats and what is your routine?

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    stats are... 6'2,160lbs,and do u want measurements? and my routine is

    Monday - Shoulders and Back
    -Lateral raises

    -Dumbell Raises
    -Dumbel rows
    Tuesday - REST
    Wednesday -Chest and Legs
    -Bench Press
    -Leg extensions
    -Flys
    Thursday - REST
    Friday - Bicep and Tricep
    - 2 sets of Bicep Curls / 2 sets of Hammer Curls
    -Concentration Curls
    -Tricep Kickbacks
    Saturday - 30 Min Boxing bag or REST
    Sunday - Neck and Forearm and Lats and Calves
    -Shurgs
    -Reverse Barbell curls
    -Latt pull downs (close grip)
    -Calf raises

    I dont squat because it is risky for my back and i also havnt really given it a try because i have got enough weights to make it effective i will try it when i go to the gym and use the machine!

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    1. Your routine sucks
    2. This is an assumption, but your diet sucks, too.

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    do you have a back problem?
    You will soon see Getfit in OngII Flying Knee Thingys of Doom see if the feisty greek can survive the kicks of Steel Leg From Shaolin Soccer,Dim Mak(def touch) from ChungLee,and Flying Crane by Daniel-san-El Pietro

    Spray it with windex greek!-the famous El Pietro

    You be quiet or i'll clean and press your narrow francophone self-Callahan

    Lift for gains,not glory.Control your ego and the weight

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    wtf? you are barley working out; if you had results from that id call you a genetic machine. your back day doesnt have any back exercises.

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    No offense, but you seriously aren't trying very hard with that routine. If i did your MONDAY routine, i think I would need about 5 minutes rest before I would do your Wednesday routine.

    You should stick with compund movements. For your shoulders I would either do Military press or dumbell press. For your back, do some pulls ups.

    I see that you are doing bench press, but you need to go heavy to tax your muscles. Drop the flys and add incline BP or dips.

    Leg extension will get you no where fast. If squats are out of the question because of your back, have you tried sissy squats? Leg Press? Lunges?

    Biceps and triceps usually will get worked rather well from BP and pullups. I would try to work them on the same day (i.e. chest/triceps & back/biceps)

    Your Sunday workout is a waste of time. You're already working back on Monday. Why do you need to do it again on Sunday? Reverse BB curl is a BICEP exercise. I would do calves with legs.

    This routine failed you. Body building didn't.
    Last edited by Burner27; 06-01-2006 at 01:05 PM.

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    Read this: http://www.wannabebig.com/article.php?articleid=25 then follow it.
    Then read this: http://www.atlargenutrition.com/gainingmass.php
    The read all of this: http://www.wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?t=65848
    And track everything you eat here: www.fitday.com


    Stop doing what you're doing. EVERYTHING you're doing. And learn from the people from this site.
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    ok so that means i want to change it around to this:

    Monday - Shoulders and Back
    -Lateral raises
    -Shrugs

    -Dumbell Press
    -Dumbel rows

    Tuesday - REST

    Wednesday -Chest and Legs
    -Bench Press
    -Lunges
    -Dips/pec dec
    - 2 sets of Bicep Curls / 2 sets of Hammer Curls
    -Concentration Curls
    -Tricep Kickbacks
    Thursday - REST

    Friday - WHAT GOES HERE?

    Saturday - 30 Min Boxing bag or REST

    Sunday - Other
    -Latt pull downs (close grip)
    -wrist curls
    WHAT ELSE?

    ok and so iv boosted my diet! but i think i need more protien! so is that supplement in the first post any good?

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    you don't squat because you have a back problem?
    You will soon see Getfit in OngII Flying Knee Thingys of Doom see if the feisty greek can survive the kicks of Steel Leg From Shaolin Soccer,Dim Mak(def touch) from ChungLee,and Flying Crane by Daniel-san-El Pietro

    Spray it with windex greek!-the famous El Pietro

    You be quiet or i'll clean and press your narrow francophone self-Callahan

    Lift for gains,not glory.Control your ego and the weight

    What a strong girl! This leads me to believe you can severly injure most of the male population-Nick Hatfield

    You're blazing white hot,anyone ever tell you that? Sometimes i think you have fingers faster then Superman when it comes to posts on WBB forums.
    Hot in terms of both speed and... well new hotness- Stash

    gain 50lbs-Anthony

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    Just do WBB1. Eat 3500+ cals/day. Also, please answer getfit.

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    yeh a bit of a back problem and also at home i dont have 100s of lbs of weights iv got 150lbs of free weights n a multi gym with 200lbs of weights should i invest in a squat machine? and im reading the things posted above and WBB1? and to get all the calories wut supplement to take i dont know what to eat!

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    nah, don't use weight gainer. It's not worth the money. Just eat more! I'm 6'2 170 thanks to solid diet, heavy lifting, and a little bit of protein powder. I started at 147lbs 6 months ago.

    Seriously, diet is the most important aspect of gaining weight/muscle.


    Also, same question: You have a back problem? What kind?

    If not, do you not do squats because you don't -want- to hurt your back?

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    is your back problem chronic?

    does it prevent you from squatting?
    You will soon see Getfit in OngII Flying Knee Thingys of Doom see if the feisty greek can survive the kicks of Steel Leg From Shaolin Soccer,Dim Mak(def touch) from ChungLee,and Flying Crane by Daniel-san-El Pietro

    Spray it with windex greek!-the famous El Pietro

    You be quiet or i'll clean and press your narrow francophone self-Callahan

    Lift for gains,not glory.Control your ego and the weight

    What a strong girl! This leads me to believe you can severly injure most of the male population-Nick Hatfield

    You're blazing white hot,anyone ever tell you that? Sometimes i think you have fingers faster then Superman when it comes to posts on WBB forums.
    Hot in terms of both speed and... well new hotness- Stash

    gain 50lbs-Anthony

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    For food: Chicken breast, tuna fish, brown rice, peanut butter, spinach, cottage cheese, yogurt, protein powder, salmon, good bread, eggs/egg whites, turkey sandwiches, whole wheat noodles, etc etc.

    There's a sticky on "What bodybuilders eat" Check that out!! It's got a lot of great food ideas!

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    Here is the routine I used for a little while and seen decent results. Keep in mind you have to train hard and do EVERY exercise till failure.

    Day1 Chest
    3 x 6-8 flat
    3 x 6-8 incline
    3 x 6-8 decline
    3 x 10 flies
    1 x ? some kind of press for a burnout with somewhat light weight

    Keep in mind for bench I try to add 10 lbs every time when I use barbell 1st set I may get 9...but on my last set I usually get 6

    Day2 Legs/Traps
    3 x 8 squats
    3 x 8 legpress
    3 x 10 leg extensions
    3 x 10 leg curls
    3 x 12-15 calve raises
    3 x 10-12 shrugs

    Keep in mind for legs I also try to add weight after ever set

    Day 3 Back/Bi's
    3 x 8 lat pulldowns
    3 x 8 seated cable rows
    3 x 8 dumbell rows
    3 x 8-10 e-z curl standing curls or preacher
    3 x 8-10 dumbell curls (alternate differt type each time)
    1 x ? Burnout set of some kind of curl

    add weight after each set

    Day4 shoulders/tri's
    3 x 8-10 some kind of shoulder press...barbell or dumbell
    3 x 10 side raises
    3 x 10 front raises
    3 x 10 tricep extension (cable)
    3 x 10 tricep kickback or reverse grip bench or super close grip bench
    1 x ? burnout tricep exersize
    add weigh after each set

    This setup will avoid not giving a muscle group enough time to heal before hitting them up again...for example when you bench press you are working tri's too. ALso when you have time you can do some cardio and throw in rest days. #1 thing to remeber is diet is 75% of the equation!!! Hope this helps..it worked for me

    Best thing I did for size was high intensity w/o's bu I would go there untill you get a give a solid routine a try...good luck man

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    ^holy volume mate!
    You will soon see Getfit in OngII Flying Knee Thingys of Doom see if the feisty greek can survive the kicks of Steel Leg From Shaolin Soccer,Dim Mak(def touch) from ChungLee,and Flying Crane by Daniel-san-El Pietro

    Spray it with windex greek!-the famous El Pietro

    You be quiet or i'll clean and press your narrow francophone self-Callahan

    Lift for gains,not glory.Control your ego and the weight

    What a strong girl! This leads me to believe you can severly injure most of the male population-Nick Hatfield

    You're blazing white hot,anyone ever tell you that? Sometimes i think you have fingers faster then Superman when it comes to posts on WBB forums.
    Hot in terms of both speed and... well new hotness- Stash

    gain 50lbs-Anthony

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    yeah i dont do quats because i dont want to hurt it.. its not like a specific problem i just have pains if i overwork it! like 1 day i played golf n came home i couldnt move till the next day becoz of the pain! so just attempting to be safe but i guess i should be able to handle it its just a matter of starting light though? and building up and i also need a squat machine or more free weights!

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    ofcourse, practice your form and with the bar only.
    You will soon see Getfit in OngII Flying Knee Thingys of Doom see if the feisty greek can survive the kicks of Steel Leg From Shaolin Soccer,Dim Mak(def touch) from ChungLee,and Flying Crane by Daniel-san-El Pietro

    Spray it with windex greek!-the famous El Pietro

    You be quiet or i'll clean and press your narrow francophone self-Callahan

    Lift for gains,not glory.Control your ego and the weight

    What a strong girl! This leads me to believe you can severly injure most of the male population-Nick Hatfield

    You're blazing white hot,anyone ever tell you that? Sometimes i think you have fingers faster then Superman when it comes to posts on WBB forums.
    Hot in terms of both speed and... well new hotness- Stash

    gain 50lbs-Anthony

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    Yea, start light! Get the form right and you'll be golden.

    If it starts to give you trouble, then switch it out with another lift... but i'd suggest giving it a shot.

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    ok wut i really have to do is get to a gym i dont have alot at home! i was trying to gain w.o having to go anywhere guess thts not possible im going to start going to the gym on the 15th of june after my exams then ill use a very similar routine to that ill try and eat more so the final answer to supplements is no? i mean even if it just aids me a bit im wiliing to do it im pretty damn desperate lol

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    get protein powder from atlargenutrition.com: Nitrean

    And just use it to suppliment, not replace meals. Eat whole foods!

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    Jalal - You are picking all the wrong exercises to do. It seems you have found just about every exercise that is the LEAST effective in building overall strength and size. Quite a feat, if you ask me. You need to pick compound movements in which your body can move the most weight, such as squats, deadlifts, bench presses, and rows, as opposed to the curls, kickbacks, and other puny exercises you are doing now.

    Also, you still have not clarified what your diet is like.

    Finally, what TECHO, Scarz of Pain, and Progress said. :withstupi
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    Quote Originally Posted by jalal90
    ok wut i really have to do is get to a gym i dont have alot at home! i was trying to gain w.o having to go anywhere guess thts not possible im going to start going to the gym on the 15th of june after my exams then ill use a very similar routine to that ill try and eat more so the final answer to supplements is no? i mean even if it just aids me a bit im wiliing to do it im pretty damn desperate lol
    Desparate for what? Nothing comes easy. You need to work hard. Don't expect overnight results. Listen to the experts here (Built & Get Fit)

    The problem with your back could be a weak core. If you strengthen your core, your back problem may fade away.

    Be patient.
    Last edited by Burner27; 06-01-2006 at 01:46 PM.

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    ok im game ill workout just like instructed and my diet is :
    Breakfastoridge,3 egg whites,3 whole eggs, 2 bananas, and orange juice
    Lunch:Fruit,sandwhich-chicken,a few glasses of full fat milk with sum nuts
    Snack:Pizza,Fish,Chicken breast anything in the fridge really lol
    Dinner:Rice,chicken,beans,More Milk+nuts,anything for dinner really a variety of foods cooked with chicken and lamb and fish sometyms.
    and thats it really and i want too add another meal or 2 and i think the easiest way is to put in a meal replacement supplement? becoz i cant cook myself and its fast i dont like wasting time cooking i just want what i need.

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