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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    O.K....not really mesmall's Avatar
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    big to small

    We all know if you want a smaller waist the only thing to do is to lose bodyfat and perhaps some crunchs to tighten it up.
    And we all have read that if you consistantly overtrain a muscle it will lose some size.
    So.....what if you overtrained your abs, could this possibly make your waist smaller?
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    Do you want to lose muscle from your midsection or fat?....if it's fat you want to lose, ya gotta diet. Can't spot reduce
    If you wanna make your ab muscles smaller, i suppose overtraining would help.

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    You are contradicting yourself.
    " Eat to grow, Progression to get stronger " - mesmall

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    Either way, dumb idea. Just don't train your abs using resistance.

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    No, b/c if you're midsection gets smaller,...you have either lost fat, or you have lost muscle. Dieting would burn the fat. But I'm guessing, that if you did overtrain, you would lose some muscle size in your abs.

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    " Eat to grow, Progression to get stronger " - mesmall

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    I was refering to "you are contradicting yourself"

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    when you lose fat it comes off all over....if over training abs made them smaller, that would be spot reducing..
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    Sorry i'm not argueing....just throwing out some ideas
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    I'm just trying to seperate "losing fat" and "losing muscle"

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    I know it sounds a bit strange, but if you have a natural big waist with low bodyfat and the rest of your body was in great shape, would or could someone use this to there benifit?
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    Originally posted by mesmall
    when you lose fat it comes off all over....if over training abs made them smaller, that would be spot reducing..
    No it wouldnt.

    There is a difference between spot reducing fat and 'spot reducing a muscle' (This even a word? Who would want to reduce the size of their muscles?).

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    I agree ......but read above
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    Originally posted by mesmall
    would or could someone use this to there benifit?

    It isn't clicking. You are making no sense to me.

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    If you have a big chest and a big waist at low bodyfat it just doesn't look that great
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    Agreed. And that is most likely your bone structure(if you are at low bodyfat). Not much you can do about it.

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    Yes that would definatly have something to do with it. Plus the fact that i am 5 foot 8 does not help...
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    How big is your waist?

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    203 lbs..47 chest....37 waist...12 to 14% bodyfat....
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    Ok, mesmall, I see what you were trying to say. I didnt' know about the part about you having a naturally big waist

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    well, in response to shrinking ur ab muscles; ur ab muscles don't take that much "space" in the first place. also, ur abs are designed for endurance, so overtraining ur abs might not shrink it cuz it's very resistant to it (even maxot allows 2x a week on abs on a 5 day split).

    if u wanna reduce the size of ur waist, u have to lose the fat first. it's very unlikely ur ab muscles will dwarf ur chest muscles at a low bf.

    mesmall, remeasure ur measurements again, including bf. most ppl's waist at a very lean bf is around the size of their hip bone area (the area that has almost no muscle, it gets bigger only by gaining fat) which is around 30in no matter the height or weight, so unless ur pelvic girdle is around 35-37 in, there was an error in measuring
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    wouldn't it just be easier to not train abs then to try to overtrain them???

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    Originally posted by MarshallPenn
    wouldn't it just be easier to not train abs then to try to overtrain them???
    Overtraining them is pointless... and so is not training them.

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