The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness
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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    a few cutting questions

    Hi everyone. I am currently cutting, and looking to attain a very low bodyfat (currently 13%, doing pretty well.) As far as abs, I am constantly hearing that you can train your abs till the cows come home, but in reality it's low bodyfat gives you abs. So is ab training useless? Or will one get abs faster using both cardio and ab training?
    Also, how does everyoen juggle a couple cardio sesions a week PLUS leg training days? I always do heavy cardio and my legs are done for a few days. Do you run through the soreness? What seems to work for you guys?

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    you should train your abs, it is not useless.
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    Ab training will increase the apparent size of your abs, but you'll need to have some base for them to be aesthetic even with low bf. There are also mperfectly good functional reasons to train abs.

    In any case, high rep, frequent ab work is USELESS.

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    "In any case, high rep, frequent ab work is USELESS."

    You mean useless for building larger abs? High rep, frequent ab work is the backbone of pretty much all sport related ab workouts (to build endurance)...

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    High-rep, frequent ab work may not be useless, but it's unnecessary.

    I hit abs with about 3-6 sets of 8 reps a week, with weight. If I remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Progenerate
    "In any case, high rep, frequent ab work is USELESS."

    You mean useless for building larger abs? High rep, frequent ab work is the backbone of pretty much all sport related ab workouts (to build endurance)...
    I suppose I really meant "in either case," referring to buidling bigger abs or reducing bodyfat.

    I posit that it is fairly useless for sports as well. More useful for some striking sports, certainly. Still, there is no reason to do ab work nearly as often as most athletes do. It's a holdover from very old training methodologies. Why should one train their abs far more often than every other muscle group?

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    Alrite nice, train the abs, good deal. Thanks for answering everyone! now, how about the leg training? How do you juggle weight training w/ legs and cardio all in the same week? I fear losing cardio days due to over sore legs.

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    You should fear losing leg days from cardio.

    I do 20 minutes of fast incline walking after leg day, and fast walking with HIIT after upper body days.

    And/or AM empty walking for about 25 minutes.

    Cutting is driven by diet, not cardio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Built View Post
    You should fear losing leg days from cardio.

    I do 20 minutes of fast incline walking after leg day, and fast walking with HIIT after upper body days.

    And/or AM empty walking for about 25 minutes.

    Cutting is driven by diet, not cardio.
    So, eating less will take away the bodyfat?
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    eating right will take away the body fat.
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    Look under BUILTS "MOTHER OF ALL CUTS". It helped me understand a lot more on cutting, Which I am going to start in another week or two.

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