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Its no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    heavy deadlifts

    recently ive been doing heavy deads every week. tonight i pulled 2 sets of 4 of 375lbs. my old man, whos never done any weight training in his life but has a really bad back from doing years of heavy lifting and shoveling etc at work has been trying to tell me i shouldnt do deadlifts because i will pay for it down the line. what do you guys think? my form is very good, I am friends with one of the trainers at the gym and he usually watches to make sure its all good.

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    Heavy deadlifts, rock. I wouldn't keep doing them EVERY week, though. If you do, pretty soon you'll see your gains will stall. Deadlifts are so demanding on you that you occasionally need a week off from them to recover.
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    His years of heavy lifting and shoveling were probably not done with impeccable form each time, so that coulda took its toll on his back.
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    There are such things as overuse injuries. You can wear things out.

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    whats a good exercise to alternate with deads then?

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    I just replace my heavy deads with dynamic squats and deads, every other week.
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    I like to switch deads up with SLDL every other week. Some people disagree with this but this is what works for me.
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    rack pulls rock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith
    I like to switch deads up with SLDL every other week. Some people disagree with this but this is what works for me.
    Why would someone disagree with that?

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    because SLDL almost emphasizes hamstring contraction more then back....

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    Quote Originally Posted by djreef
    Why would someone disagree with that?

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    I would imagine because SLDLs target the hamstrings more than regular deadlifts.

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    to OP why dont you go heavy one week and the next week go lighter. So you say you go 2 sets of 4 of 375lbs. May be next week you could go 3x8 at a workable weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greathuskie
    because SLDL almost emphasizes hamstring contraction more then back....
    I'm still trying to see why this would be a problem.

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    me too. im just answering your question

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    Oh, OK.

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    I don't necessarily disagree with your dad. What you have to do is determine what is most important. If you deadlift heavy for the next 30 years you may have issues when you get quite a bit older. If you never stop the chances of you having problems are greatly reduced.

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    You can alternate deads with good mornings, also. Or kind of like skinnysad said you can alternate between dynamic and max effort workouts with deads and/or some of the stated alternatives. By "dynamic" workouts I refer to workouts where you go lighter and practice speed/explosiveness, usually with higher volume than what you'd don on max effort days.
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    Deads -> Good Mornings -> Plat form pulls -> Rack Pulls -> start again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djreef
    I'm still trying to see why this would be a problem.

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    People find this a problem because many say they do SLDL's and romanian deads in the same week and have no problem with it.
    In my situation SLDL's tear up my hams along with the rest of my leg routine and my back follows 3 days after my legs. My legs are at the most pain 2 days later and fully heal close to a week after at times. So when doing romanian deads, my legs are still in a **** load of pain. When hitting up deads heavy with full intensity I like having my legs fully fresh. This is why I like switching those 2 exercises up every other week. Like I said, this is what works for me and many others will disagree with what works for you, but this is what you have to learn and find for yourself.
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