And when can I expect to stop seeing newbie gains?
when they have improved their knowledge and understanding. however as their is always something to learn we are all newbies to a point.
weight 202 - (bf around 14%)
Bench - 286
deadlift - new pr on the 23/12/06 190 kilo (430 pound)
squat - 264 ATF
200 pound at 10% bf by next summer
I'm a perpetual n00b. I like it this way, I learn new stuff everyday.
Ive heard an average of like 6 months or something. If that helps at all.
Me too.Originally Posted by Risk10k
You're always a noob compared to someone.
It generally takes about 7.35 months.
Don't hate the player. Hate the game.
It all depends on your genetics. Obviously someone with IFBB potential who just starts training will probably see n00b gains for much longer than your average lifter.
When you stop gaining muscle mass as quickly as you are now. When I started, I gained over 20 lbs in a few months.. Since then, only a pound ever so often, and I try harder. You will just know.
"Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education alone will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan "press on" has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race." - John Calvin Coolidge
9 months-20lb gains! (2005 Newbie gains)-A bit of motivation for beginners
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:withstupiOriginally Posted by Risk10k
Why do I like WBB? Because I still have stuff to learn... and hopefully have stuff to offer.
If you are just talking gains..
then I would say it depends on genetics, effort and diet... and your ability to change your program at those initial plateaus.. but I think with all that in consideration, you should be able to get to 90% potential within 2 yrs...
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Your an idiot dude!Originally Posted by MM
It takes 7.36 months! Jeeeeezz
Age: 24 Height: 5'9" Weight: 185
Gym PRs: 365/240/440=1045
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When you stop thinking about being a newbie and instead spend your time learning everything you possibly can.
It's easier to point out the differences between us than to admit the similarities.
This body holding me, reminds me of my own mortality.
When your curl is as high as your bench, gains begin to slow down.
Hmm, when can I expect to stop seeing newbie gains? Am I wasting my opportunites of getting big by going on a cut to lsoe fat, when I could just bulk like hell and get lots of new muscle? What do you guys think?
How do you know your not a newbie anymore?
You're no longer a newbie when you realize there is this thing called the "search," you learn how to use it, you learn how to understand what you read and can take the wonderful advice people give you without starting some new stupid thread about the exact same things we have been telling you from the get-go.
Yep, that's when you're not a newb anymore.
What is elite?
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WHat have I been told in this thread that i've been told in others? NOTHING. Stop being harsh.Originally Posted by HomeYield
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So do you guys reckon I'm wasting my newbie gains on a cut?
If you're fat, cut. If you're not fat, bulk. If you are happy where you are, maintain.
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