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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    What happens if...

    You get more protien than your LBM.

    My LBM is 180 lbs. Today I got 250 maybe more grams. Do those grams go to waste or are they bad for your kidney or what?

    If theirs nothing wrong with it what's to stop someone from just guzzling down a jar of whey powder a day?

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    It probably won't kill you, but I would stick to 1-1.5 grams per pound of body weight for optimal gains. I think any more than that is just a frickin waste.

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    I have 115 lbs of LBM and I regularly consume 200g protein.

    You're fine. Beyond a certain point, it just becomes expensive carbohydrate.

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    Drink plenty of fluids and you'll be just dandy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidior
    you explode
    No, you'll fart a lot. Then you explode.

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    Nothing wrong with consuming that much protein. its more important to the get the minimum when cutting. when bulking you are going to be way over especially as some people on here get to the 6000+cal mark. if i can get 200+grams of protein from 2200cals im going to be geting an awful lot when im bulking eating 4000 cals. their isnt anything wrong with that at all.
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    doesnt jay cutlar consume like a kilo of protein a day? im not sure if that was jay cutlar but i know some BB'er does.
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    Bench: 110kg (242lbs) Raw - 29.01.14
    Barbell Military Press: 85kg (187lbs) Raw- 31.01.14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goodwinm
    doesnt jay cutlar consume like a kilo of protein a day? im not sure if that was jay cutlar but i know some BB'er does.
    I saw his fitday once when someone posted it and it was 1000 g of protein. What a waste...
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    it may be a waste but as he will need such huge calories to grow hes only going to have huge amounts of carbs/protein and fats so either or its a waste of one of the other and id rather have enough protein to waste than carbs or fat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordanbcool
    I saw his fitday once when someone posted it and it was 1000 g of protein. What a waste...
    A delcious, delicious waste. I don't know about anyone else, but I like meat...

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    meat is good!
    has anybody eaten someone elses flesh? u know. like Hannibal lector style lol.
    Imagine eating ronnie lmao. All 100% ronnie goodness.

    *quote from house of 1000 corpses*

    "dont forget to take home some of my tasty fried chicken, it just tastes so damn good"

    Words from the legendery Sid Haig!



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja77J90OD68

    take a look at that lmao!
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    Bench: 110kg (242lbs) Raw - 29.01.14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goodwinm
    meat is good!
    has anybody eaten someone elses flesh? u know. like Hannibal lector style lol.
    Imagine eating ronnie lmao. All 100% ronnie goodness.

    *quote from house of 1000 corpses*

    "dont forget to take home some of my tasty fried chicken, it just tastes so damn good"

    Words from the legendery Sid Haig!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goodwinm
    meat is good!
    has anybody eaten someone elses flesh? u know. like Hannibal lector style lol.
    Imagine eating ronnie lmao. All 100% ronnie goodness.

    *quote from house of 1000 corpses*

    "dont forget to take home some of my tasty fried chicken, it just tastes so damn good"

    Words from the legendery Sid Haig!



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja77J90OD68

    take a look at that lmao!

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    Quote Originally Posted by arya202
    You get more protien than your LBM.

    My LBM is 180 lbs. Today I got 250 maybe more grams. Do those grams go to waste or are they bad for your kidney or what?

    If theirs nothing wrong with it what's to stop someone from just guzzling down a jar of whey powder a day?
    Any protein not used by your body is stored as fat for energy.

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    Any protein not used by your body is stored as fat for energy.
    Care to explain that one?
    "The only easy day was yesterday."

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    Do I need to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lifter4life
    Do I need to?
    It can be used for energy (like carbs).
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    Quote Originally Posted by lifter4life
    Any protein not used by your body is stored as fat for energy.
    LOL. Please explain the process by which this always happens. And get as detailed as necassary please. Thanks.
    Last edited by smalls; 06-18-2006 at 02:12 AM.
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    I guess i cant have fun on these forums without someone jumping down my throat. (no pun intended)
    No i wasn't being serious.
    Oh well, Im sure you guys knew I wouldnt really eat someones flesh and I was asking a retorical question about if any of you do.

    and to arya202, me 2. Because here I can openly express my sick/pathetic/funny/weird humor without anyone being a bit of a turtle about it. Ahh well. Im sorry if i overstood the boundary and i apologise prefusley if i made you feel uncomfortable in anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smalls
    LOL. Please explain the process by which this always happens. And get as detailed as necassary please. Thanks.
    Are you arguing with me or do you really need someone to explain it to you? I could understand you better if you don't spoke in da brok3n 3ngGlisH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lifter4life
    Are you arguing with me
    Nobody is actually arguing with you because we know you are wrong.

    There is more than one use for unused amino acids.

    Fat storage is merely one of them.

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    I believe people are wanting you to elaborate on your statement and explain why you think this happens and back up your theory with evidence. If you can which i believe you will struggle to do lifter4life
    my journal
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    weight 202 - (bf around 14%)
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    deadlift - new pr on the 23/12/06 190 kilo (430 pound)
    squat - 264 ATF

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    Digestion breaks protein down into amino acids. If amino acids are in excess of the body's requirements they are metabolized into glycogen and/or fat and subsequently used for energy. If the amino acids are used for energy then the carbon skeletons are converted into acetyl CoA, which then enters the Krebs cycle for oxidation producing ATP.

    uh oh... a parade of veterans with 2,000+ post. ZOMG SOMEONE HELPZORZ MEE!!!!1! I could go further if you wanted me to.

    That felt great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holto
    Nobody is actually arguing with you because we know you are wrong.

    There is more than one use for unused amino acids.

    Fat storage is merely one of them.
    I'm wrong but yet you say that protein can be stored as fat? hmmmm, I never said that fat storage was the only use for excess protein. bye

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