it's been about 2 months or more since i have seen gains on the bench but my squat has gone up like 80 lbs maybe more haven't maxed out in a while.
My clean has had moderate gains went from 180 to about 200.
is this the result of genetics are what? my dad doesn't seem to have a bigger lower body.
What's your diet and training routine look like? Have you tried EATING more?
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That's a common thing. Bench is WAY slower to increase for most people. Try focusing on a different movement for a while - inclines, declines, dumbells, etc. Work something else for a while then come back to flat bench.
Make sure you are eating enough and getting enough rest,
Gains will come slowly and may be in the form of a rep or two here and there, rather than 10 lb increases.
Try Db bench variations for a while. That really helped me.
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Originally Posted by ddegroff
i agree... change is what it sounds like you need... also remember that a clean and a squat use alot more muslces than a bench.. so the combination of all those muslces getting a little bit stronger can add up to a big change in weight for those movements
also... just eat more... maybe you have been eating enough to increase those movements but not your bench.. when in doubt eat and sleep
I have the exact same problem. In the last year my bench has went from around 145 x 6 up to 155 x 7 (no idea on maxes because I don't do them). Now my squat has went from 225 x 6 to 275 x 8. I also put on 25lbs and maintained my low bf during this time.
It seems like I've tried every variation to get my bench up. I've done flat, incline and decline with BB and DB. Even resorted to a smith machine for a few weeks. I've tried messing with rep ranges 3-10, tried doing negatives. Got benching advice from some powerlifters at my gym.
Really, the only time I ever made progress was when I just flat benched for like 8 sets then did the rest of my chest / tri work (dips, skull crushers, pec dec)
diet 2800-3000 cals max grams of fat 80 protein min 180
bench routine was 5x5 changed to another one now 1x8 warm up
2x4 190 3x3 200, 205, 210 add 5lbs every week to each lift so far so good.
squat 1x8 135 5x5 275, 285, 295, 305, 315
clean 1x6 125 4x4 170 175 180 185
i also do rows, dips, close grip bench, flat flies, curls, calf raises, leg extensions, shrugs, step ups, lunges, some track machine
i split this up and do all upper body on monday and wednesday
all lower body on tuesday and thursday.
oh yeah and thanks for the post so far
Last edited by mesayseo; 06-14-2006 at 10:41 PM.
how's your form? I know that a lot of people *think* their form is good but try having someone else critique it.
well i'm not gonna lie people tell me that my form is good but my breathing sucks.
Just suck as much air in as you can on descend tighten your abs and exhale on ascend, not that tough. For me my deadlift and bench is going up alot but my squats are going slower for some reason, even though my forms good.
Last edited by Turnip; 06-14-2006 at 11:29 PM.
uhh that happens to most everyone, its normal, it happened to me too, so just keep at it.
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well thanks for the posts. i think the only reason i am even worried about it is because i see everyone else going up on the bench but then again i never see them do anything besides chest and arms.
Same here...few years back when I was in college I was stuck at 225 for 7 reps for a good while...I switched to DB's for 3 weeks or so and went back and 225 was so light for me...got 12 repsOriginally Posted by ddegroff
You should determine where your sticking point is in your lift. Your bench is only as good as your weakest body part. If it's your tris that are weak, try doing some extra tri excercises. If it's your chest, try doing some chest isolation exercises.
thanks for the advice! I will do everything you guys said! Thanks
Not everything will improve at the same rate, and sometimes you'll see outstanding progress with one lift, and none (or regression) with another.
It's the way it goes. Keep on doin gwhat you are doing with the squats, and play around with things on the bench.
And don't worry so much.
Squats work better than supplements.
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Samething was happening to me. My squat was going up like crazy, but not Bench or any of my chest excercises. I was overthinking it, I started to use a spotter and my bench (pounds) started going up. Went back to working out by myself and it kept on going up.
^^ What Jarhead said.
My ATF squat is barely increasing (And the poundage is almost the same as my bench press, it's ridiculous!!). Although my bench is barely progressing also. But the problem is their both the same ... how sad.
I guess it's because I can focus easier while benching. My heart rate doesn't go up like crazy when I bench. Unlike squats, my heart rate goes up crazy and I backout too easily. I'm a sissy like that.... I start thinking about each rep and how uncomfortable it feels other than actually just doing it.... and when I do that, I just lose my breathing control and it feels even more uncomfortable.
Last edited by SkinnySadMan; 06-18-2006 at 09:19 PM.
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If you're using the 5 x 5 routine try switching back to 3 x 12,10,8
Worked WONDERS for me, that and my high carb diet, that is
Max Lifts:------------------ Goals
Bench Press: 215lbs------- 250lbs
Squat:300lbs------------ 300 lbs
Deadlift: 335------------ 350 lbs
Total: 850lbs ---------- 900 lbs
Check your benching form. After that, just keep at it and don't stay on any set routine for too long. And keep eating.
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Originally Posted by fatrb38
Originally Posted by sCaRz*Of*PaiN
well since his other lifts are going up it seems to me that it wouldnt be his diet. Switch up your routine try dumbell work