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    calves locking up a lot in soccer

    for some reason, my calves lock up (cramp) quite frequently while playing soccer games.... ive been told eating a banana b4 a game can help prevent it (for the potassium)...

    well ive tried eating a banana and it still happens sometimes.... even after i wear a bandage that holds my calves in place....

    also, i have had no previous issues with my calves... they are healthy and i work them out all the time... so i dont know wat the issue is...

    anyone experience this ?
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    Eat a couple of banana's DAILY, directly before a game will have no effect.

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    You're stretching, right? My calves will seize up for days after running/weights if I don't spend 20-30min stretching out before and after working them.
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    How much water are you drinking? Dehydration can lead to cramping.
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    i drink lots of water daily... and i eat a banana almost daily as well in my protein shake...

    and yes i stretch it out after every workout/game/practice... and before
    Age: 25
    Height: 5'7"
    Weight: 175lbs
    Body Fat around 12%
    Biceps: 14.5"
    Chest: 38"

    Bench Press: 225 x 10 reps and 275 pounds x 1 rep
    Deadlift: 405 pounds x 1 rep
    Squat: 335 pounds x 3 reps

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    When did your season start? What does your conditioning training look like? Is it just running or do you do sprints, intervals, shuttles, etc? Sometimes when you're just running all the time and then start playing soccer (which involves constant running but also a lot of speed change, some stops and turns etc.) your muscles are not ready for it. You need to adapt to it.

    This only really applies if you haven't bene playing for a while and are just startng again.

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    You could have issues in another area and as a result they are showing up in the calves. It's tough to say. Some foam rolling would help relieve any tension pockets you may have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drew
    When did your season start? What does your conditioning training look like? Is it just running or do you do sprints, intervals, shuttles, etc? Sometimes when you're just running all the time and then start playing soccer (which involves constant running but also a lot of speed change, some stops and turns etc.) your muscles are not ready for it. You need to adapt to it.

    This only really applies if you haven't bene playing for a while and are just startng again.
    this could be it since my season just began.... lets hope this problem doesn't keep happening...
    Age: 25
    Height: 5'7"
    Weight: 175lbs
    Body Fat around 12%
    Biceps: 14.5"
    Chest: 38"

    Bench Press: 225 x 10 reps and 275 pounds x 1 rep
    Deadlift: 405 pounds x 1 rep
    Squat: 335 pounds x 3 reps

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    if i play basketball earlier in the day AND then play my soccer game at nite, would that be a big problem for my calves? or would it actually kind of warm them up?
    Age: 25
    Height: 5'7"
    Weight: 175lbs
    Body Fat around 12%
    Biceps: 14.5"
    Chest: 38"

    Bench Press: 225 x 10 reps and 275 pounds x 1 rep
    Deadlift: 405 pounds x 1 rep
    Squat: 335 pounds x 3 reps

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    I read some where creatine will make you cramp up a little easier but nothing major.
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    You could also be running on your toes.
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    So I find this law at work: When I want to do good, evil is right there with me. For in my inner being I delight in God's law; but I see another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members. What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? Thanks be to God--through Jesus Christ our Lord!"
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    all soccer players run on their toes...
    Age: 25
    Height: 5'7"
    Weight: 175lbs
    Body Fat around 12%
    Biceps: 14.5"
    Chest: 38"

    Bench Press: 225 x 10 reps and 275 pounds x 1 rep
    Deadlift: 405 pounds x 1 rep
    Squat: 335 pounds x 3 reps

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    You need to drink some Gatorade, you need some sodium and Gatorade has sodium in it. Dehydration is a big problem, stretch too... Potassium, all of it. Just try the Gatorade... should help. I only cramped up once in my calves through football, and basketball once because of dehydration. The sodium helps the liquid stick in the muscles and other tissues that are depleted.
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    Learn how to run correctly, that could be your problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre3000
    Learn how to run correctly, that could be your problem.
    what do you mean learn how to run correctly?? ive been running since i was a lil kid...

    i used to do track, played AAA hockey, and elite level soccer with training coaches, etc...

    i do not think i need to learn how to run... that is just an insult
    Age: 25
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    Weight: 175lbs
    Body Fat around 12%
    Biceps: 14.5"
    Chest: 38"

    Bench Press: 225 x 10 reps and 275 pounds x 1 rep
    Deadlift: 405 pounds x 1 rep
    Squat: 335 pounds x 3 reps

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    No it's not. I've played soccer since I was a little kid (4 years old) to. It doesn't mean I automatically know how to run correctly. Loosen up a bit. It's not a personal insult.
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    So I find this law at work: When I want to do good, evil is right there with me. For in my inner being I delight in God's law; but I see another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members. What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? Thanks be to God--through Jesus Christ our Lord!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedi Knight
    You need to drink some Gatorade, you need some sodium and Gatorade has sodium in it. Dehydration is a big problem, stretch too... Potassium, all of it. Just try the Gatorade... should help. I only cramped up once in my calves through football, and basketball once because of dehydration. The sodium helps the liquid stick in the muscles and other tissues that are depleted.
    The sodium in Gatorade is to help mainly with glucose uptake, as your cells need sodium to be coupled with glucose for absorption.




    To the OP: is it both calves? At the same time? Late in the game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by charles_316
    what do you mean learn how to run correctly?? ive been running since i was a lil kid...

    i used to do track, played AAA hockey, and elite level soccer with training coaches, etc...

    i do not think i need to learn how to run... that is just an insult
    Dude, it wasn't an insult, a lot of people just don't know how to run correctly when it comes to sprinting, and I had no idea you had done all these sports. Chill man. You probably just need to loosen up then, use some bengay, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRITON
    The sodium in Gatorade is to help mainly with glucose uptake, as your cells need sodium to be coupled with glucose for absorption.




    To the OP: is it both calves? At the same time? Late in the game?
    no it is never both calves... and yes it is usually late in the game... the last time it happened was my left calf about 3/4 into the game during 2nd half
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    Biceps: 14.5"
    Chest: 38"

    Bench Press: 225 x 10 reps and 275 pounds x 1 rep
    Deadlift: 405 pounds x 1 rep
    Squat: 335 pounds x 3 reps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre3000
    Dude, it wasn't an insult, a lot of people just don't know how to run correctly when it comes to sprinting, and I had no idea you had done all these sports. Chill man. You probably just need to loosen up then, use some bengay, etc.
    is bengay like RUBa535 stuff (gives muscles a warm feeling)? cuz ive been told to try it out
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    Height: 5'7"
    Weight: 175lbs
    Body Fat around 12%
    Biceps: 14.5"
    Chest: 38"

    Bench Press: 225 x 10 reps and 275 pounds x 1 rep
    Deadlift: 405 pounds x 1 rep
    Squat: 335 pounds x 3 reps

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    Hey chum...

    I don't play soccer, but I do a lot of running and I play baseball. I have the same problem with my calf muscles crapping up, but only when I play baseball. I have a cheep pair of baseball cleats and after changing the insoles I was fine. Yeah that's right....I'm Gel'in it now!!!!!

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    you really want to be drinking more, every opportunity during the game, free kick,substitute, player down injured.......get water into you, and you have to stretch to "the max" happens to me when im playing sometimes, but rarely now that i keep hydrated

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    I tend to get calf cramps if I do some sort of activity (running, bball, squats or leg press) for a while, then have a gap between it and another activity. Even if the gap is 10 minutes, If I cool down I might as well go home 'cause my calves are DONE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wannabebig...er
    you really want to be drinking more,

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    Running more on your toes IS running correctly when you're wearing cleats and playing a game in which you want to be able to plant and turn quickly/suddenly. Running in soccer and football and rugby and such is NOT the same as running track or road running, etc.

    I occasionally get calf cramps like that towards the end of my Saturday football games. We play for about 2.5-3 hours and towards the end, I find I can lock up one or both calves when sprinting or leaping into the air to make a catch, etc.

    What helps:
    1) the frequency of the cramps has been drastically reduced since I started using the Animal Pak multivitamin pak. I attribute this to having adequate levels of all things needed in my body and therefore changing the way I perform, sweat, etc.... I think I am excreting less salt when I sweat for some reason... (more below)
    2) hydration is KEY; not just with water but with gatorade/powerade/etc. get those electrolytes back into your body. Salt is also a factor... I am a heavy sweater and a 'salt caker' (i.e. I will sweat out a lot of salt and it cakes up along my hairline, eyebrows, etc.). THis is part of the reason I recommend Gatorade instead of just water... there are salts in there.
    3) fatigue is a factor... if you're like me you are competitive enough not to want to back off, ever, but the reality is part of cramping is in muscle fatigue. You have two choices here: either find a way to play a little less intensely or improve your muscle conditioning to cope.

    A good summary article here:
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