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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Bill Hartman on shoulders (from t-mag article http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1591121 )
    Got a problem with your right shoulder? Take a look at your left hip musculature. About 44% of people that have shoulder instability have a hip problem on the opposite side.
    I know that this is not revolutionary, but about 5 years ago, as I was coaching swimmers, I realized that a huge key to reducing shoulder issues was not to do endless external/internal rotations, but to hit shrugs, overhead shrugs, Kelso shrugs, dip shrugs, pulldown shrugs etc. It had an almost immediate effect.

    Over the past year, with the hip/hamstrings issues I've had, I realized that the hips too could affect your shoulders. Thoracic flexibility was another... I read something very interesting at dragondoor - it was something like the following:

    Your musculature is like spokes on a wheel. If one is too tight or too loose it will affect the entire wheel.

    Food for thought.
    A child does not learn to squat from the top down. In other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and make the conscious decision to stand. Squatting precedes standing in the developmental sequence. This is the way a child's brain learns to use the body as the child develops movement patterns. Therefore, a child is probably crawling, rocks back into a squatting position with the back completely relaxed and the hips completely flexed, and stands when he has enough hip strength. This approach makes a lot of sense and can be applied to relearning the deep squat movement if it is lost. -Gray Cook
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    Another shoulder article that came out a month or two ago - definately worth a read:

    A New Component to Rotator Cuff Care by Mark Reifkind
    http://www.dragondoor.com/articler/mode3/239/
    Last edited by Sensei; 06-14-2007 at 02:53 AM.
    A child does not learn to squat from the top down. In other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and make the conscious decision to stand. Squatting precedes standing in the developmental sequence. This is the way a child's brain learns to use the body as the child develops movement patterns. Therefore, a child is probably crawling, rocks back into a squatting position with the back completely relaxed and the hips completely flexed, and stands when he has enough hip strength. This approach makes a lot of sense and can be applied to relearning the deep squat movement if it is lost. -Gray Cook
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    Found this at straighttothebar.com
    http://www.shoulderdoc.co.uk/
    A child does not learn to squat from the top down. In other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and make the conscious decision to stand. Squatting precedes standing in the developmental sequence. This is the way a child's brain learns to use the body as the child develops movement patterns. Therefore, a child is probably crawling, rocks back into a squatting position with the back completely relaxed and the hips completely flexed, and stands when he has enough hip strength. This approach makes a lot of sense and can be applied to relearning the deep squat movement if it is lost. -Gray Cook
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    I made this video a while back with the intention of putting together something better later.... never got around to it, but here it is in all it's raw splendor:

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    A child does not learn to squat from the top down. In other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and make the conscious decision to stand. Squatting precedes standing in the developmental sequence. This is the way a child's brain learns to use the body as the child develops movement patterns. Therefore, a child is probably crawling, rocks back into a squatting position with the back completely relaxed and the hips completely flexed, and stands when he has enough hip strength. This approach makes a lot of sense and can be applied to relearning the deep squat movement if it is lost. -Gray Cook
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    This has been such a great thread. Thank you so much, Boris, for taking the time to do all this. Rough or not, the vid was very helpful.

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    I appreciate that Built, thanks!
    A child does not learn to squat from the top down. In other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and make the conscious decision to stand. Squatting precedes standing in the developmental sequence. This is the way a child's brain learns to use the body as the child develops movement patterns. Therefore, a child is probably crawling, rocks back into a squatting position with the back completely relaxed and the hips completely flexed, and stands when he has enough hip strength. This approach makes a lot of sense and can be applied to relearning the deep squat movement if it is lost. -Gray Cook
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    Kind of wondering if this article made the cut or not and if it's going to be put back up... Anyone?
    A child does not learn to squat from the top down. In other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and make the conscious decision to stand. Squatting precedes standing in the developmental sequence. This is the way a child's brain learns to use the body as the child develops movement patterns. Therefore, a child is probably crawling, rocks back into a squatting position with the back completely relaxed and the hips completely flexed, and stands when he has enough hip strength. This approach makes a lot of sense and can be applied to relearning the deep squat movement if it is lost. -Gray Cook
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    great thread man! thanks for the information! I'm going to defintely try to incorporate some of those mobility stretches.

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    I was looking for the article just the other day actually and noticed it was taking down. I thought it was one of the better articles available so I hope it gets thrown back up.
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    Sensei, also do you have any comments for foam rolling and shoulders? Does the foam rollers use stop at thoracic and lat rolling or can you do anything more creative to massage the shoulders?

    I agree also this article should be up! I remember reading it originally and it was very good.

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    it's coming soon guys. Taking a while to get them up but it's next on my hit list - will be up for the weekend.
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    the next one that is
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    Quote Originally Posted by samadhi_smiles View Post
    Sensei, also do you have any comments for foam rolling and shoulders? Does the foam rollers use stop at thoracic and lat rolling or can you do anything more creative to massage the shoulders?

    I agree also this article should be up! I remember reading it originally and it was very good.
    Self-massage is good too - you can always kneed your shoulders directly. Foam rolling can hit a lot of things shoulder related. If you have some knowledge of massage/trigger points/shi a tsu/etc. you can get a lot relief using one of these numbers:


    I've bought several in Japan, but I've never seen these in the U.S. The closest thing is the "theracane" - it's good too, but almost too big and a little unwieldy for hitting some spots.
    Last edited by Sensei; 04-05-2009 at 01:17 PM.
    A child does not learn to squat from the top down. In other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and make the conscious decision to stand. Squatting precedes standing in the developmental sequence. This is the way a child's brain learns to use the body as the child develops movement patterns. Therefore, a child is probably crawling, rocks back into a squatting position with the back completely relaxed and the hips completely flexed, and stands when he has enough hip strength. This approach makes a lot of sense and can be applied to relearning the deep squat movement if it is lost. -Gray Cook
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    Daniel, et. al,

    I'm wondering if this article will ever be re-uploaded to the site. It's fine if it's not for whatever reason, but I'd just like to know definitively.

    I have my own notes and rough draft, but obviously it's not as nicely formatted as it was here. I've had a number of people ask my thoughts on shoulder mobility and it's nice to be able to send them here when I can.

    Let me know. Thanks,
    Boris
    A child does not learn to squat from the top down. In other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and make the conscious decision to stand. Squatting precedes standing in the developmental sequence. This is the way a child's brain learns to use the body as the child develops movement patterns. Therefore, a child is probably crawling, rocks back into a squatting position with the back completely relaxed and the hips completely flexed, and stands when he has enough hip strength. This approach makes a lot of sense and can be applied to relearning the deep squat movement if it is lost. -Gray Cook
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensei View Post
    Daniel, et. al,

    I'm wondering if this article will ever be re-uploaded to the site. It's fine if it's not for whatever reason, but I'd just like to know definitively.

    I have my own notes and rough draft, but obviously it's not as nicely formatted as it was here. I've had a number of people ask my thoughts on shoulder mobility and it's nice to be able to send them here when I can.

    Let me know. Thanks,
    Boris

    Sorry Boris, my fault entirely. Putting the old articles back in is very time consuming, particularly the pics hence why I was kinda shying away from this one for a bit.

    It;s all live now - http://www.wannabebig.com/training/i...ough-the-pain/

    The old url also redirects!

    Sorry about the wait Boris!
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    Thanks Daniel!
    A child does not learn to squat from the top down. In other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and make the conscious decision to stand. Squatting precedes standing in the developmental sequence. This is the way a child's brain learns to use the body as the child develops movement patterns. Therefore, a child is probably crawling, rocks back into a squatting position with the back completely relaxed and the hips completely flexed, and stands when he has enough hip strength. This approach makes a lot of sense and can be applied to relearning the deep squat movement if it is lost. -Gray Cook
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