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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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  1. #126
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    awesome woekouts here.. nice job on the skulls.. ive done 155x2 before and ill tell you what..talk about seeing stars that was the trip

    YBW

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    I knew you would go crazy with deadlifts

    I think it's time to work on that lockout PL87.
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    getfit-Thanks.
    Nosaj- I only had those a few times, b/c my mom bought them. lol. Thanks, I may just have to ask him. See, I'm not really sure if it's a tear or not. My friend said it might be microtears, b/c it didn't really hurt at all after a few days and now is only kind of sore in a bad way after benching or a few other movements. Or it could be a real slight tear. I think maybe another 3-4weeks not doing anything that aggravates it might help, but I just really don't know.
    YBW- Thanks. I want to be able to do the skulls with 200 for reps.
    LK- What did I do that was so crazy? lol. It's not lockout that's my weak point right now. It's moreso midway and speed off the floor.

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    08/24

    Training

    Seated OH Barbell Press
    45x10x2
    95x8
    115x8
    115x8
    115x8

    DB Shoulder Press
    50sx10
    50sx9
    50sx8

    HS Shoulder Press (w/Pauses)
    90x10
    140x6
    180x3
    140x6
    140x6
    90x10

    Hammer Curls
    50sx8
    55sx8
    60sx6
    65sx8 PR
    70sx5 PR

    Preacher Curls
    35sx8
    40sx6
    45sx5 PR

    Weight: 232lbs.
    Grade: A
    Time: 2hrs. 15mins.

    Comments:
    -I went light on all the overhead work today. Pretty easy, none of it was to failure. Just didn't want to aggravate the injury again. I may stick more with the HS-type lifts for the next few weeks. Not sure what to do yet.
    -Went moderately heavy on the curls today. Very happy with the hammer curls.

    Diet

    -Meal 1: protein shake w/half cup oats
    -Meal 2: can tuna and yogurt
    -Meal 3: 8oz. beef w/prego sauce and 2servings sweet potatoes
    -Meal 4: 2cups milk
    -Meal 5 (pre-w/o): footlong meatball sub from Subway
    -Meal 6 (during-w/o): energy drink
    -Meal 7 (post-w/o): protein bar
    -Meal 8: 8oz. chicken w/gravy and 2servings sweet potatoes
    Later:
    -Meal 9: 4cups milk

    Calories: 4800
    Protein: 356
    Carbs: 492
    Fat: 148.5

    Slightly low calories today, but not too bad. Tomorrow will be a much higher calorie day.

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    OH work looks good. I was just kidding with you about going crazy
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiftingKid
    OH work looks good. I was just kidding with you about going crazy
    Ok. Thanks LK.

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    Training

    Leg Press
    180x10x2
    270x8
    360x8
    450x16
    540x14
    630x10

    Plate-Loaded Leg Extensions
    45x20
    90x16
    135x10
    180x7 PR
    205x5 PR

    Pec Rehab:

    Flat DB Press
    20sx20

    PecDec
    12.5x20
    25x20

    Weight: 233lbs.
    Grade: A
    Time: 1hr. 20mins.

    Comments:
    -Light day today, went well.
    -Really don't know what (if anything) else I should do for rehab yet. I'm just happy it didn't hurt or feel strange in any way.

    Diet

    -Meal 1: protein shake w/half cup oats
    -Meal 2: can tuna and yogurt
    -Meal 3 (pre-w/o): 8oz. beef w/prego sauce and 2servings sweet potatoes
    -Meal 4 (during-w/o): energy drink
    -Meal 5 (post-w/o): protein bar
    -Meal 6: 6oz. chicken w/gravy and 3servings sweet potatoes
    -Meal 7: Mass XXX Shake made w/2cups milk
    -Meal 8: double cheeseburger and strawberry milkshake
    -Meal 9: Mass XXX Shake made w/2cups milk
    -Meal 10: donut from Tim Horton's and yogurt

    Calories: 6759
    Protein: 437
    Carbs: 864
    Fat: 180.5

    Good diet today.
    Last edited by POWERLIFTER87; 08-25-2006 at 10:29 PM.

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    Nice session. How old are you?
    Scars are tatoos with better stories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nosaj
    Nice session. How old are you?
    Thanks Nosaj. I'm 19.

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    Hey PL87,

    Just catching up on your training, etc Good stuff as always with you. You continue to amaze me with your diehard attitude! It's very motivating.

    Regarding your chest rehab, I don't know much about how to rehab so I can not offer any advice from experience or even 2nd hand knowledge from reading things. However, perhaps you should consult someone who is an expert in the area. Try shooting an Eric Cressey or Mike Robertson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by POWERLIFTER87
    Thanks Nosaj. I'm 19.
    wow! incredible girl,so proud of you
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    Wow, still a teenager and you kick so much ass. Yea girl!!!
    Scars are tatoos with better stories.

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    Thanks everyone.
    RipStone- Who are they and how do I contact them?

    I just get really paranoid when I'm injured. For some reason I get afraid that it'll last forever and such (even if it's something not too bad). This actually seems pretty bad, but could also be alot worse. Work is the most torture ever with this, b/c I have nothing to do usually for hours except stand around and think about this. Anyways, I'm going to try to do the smart thing here as best as I know how and not bench for the next 8 weeks. I'll be doing some real light rehab stuff and just work on moderate to heavy weight on all the other stuff I can do that doesn't involve chest. (Focusing on goals on other lifts really helps.) Then, I'll just start benching really light and work up slowly, possibly starting with the smith machine in about 6-8weeks. Someone please tell me if any of this sounds stupid.

    08/27

    Training- Off

    About 4miles cardio at work today and about 3miles yesterday. Not too bad this weekend so far, and tomorrow I should be doing dispatch, so I get to sit behind a desk with cameras all day.

    Diet

    -Meal 1: protein shake w/half cup oats
    -Meal 2: can tuna and yogurt
    -Meal 3: 8oz. beef w/prego sauce and 2servings sweet potatoes
    -Meal 4: double cheeseburger, hot dog, and 12oz. strawberry milkshake
    -Meal 5: Mass XXX Shake made w/2cups milk
    -Meal 6: Mass XXX Shake made w/2cups milk
    -Meal 7: 5 chicken breast tenders and yogurt

    Calories: 5804
    Protein: 368
    Carbs: 666
    Fat: 191.5

    Pretty good diet today. Woke up at noon and sucked that I had to have my break so early at work, but nothing I could do about that.

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    Eric is now one of our writers, but he's posted excellent stuff (rehab and otherwise) all over the net - just google him.

    Same with Mike R - google him for rehab, stretching etc. Really smart men both of 'em.

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    Your lazy

    Sitting in front of tv screens all day doesn't sound too bad now that I think of it. Getting paid to do nothing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Built
    Eric is now one of our writers, but he's posted excellent stuff (rehab and otherwise) all over the net - just google him.

    Same with Mike R - google him for rehab, stretching etc. Really smart men both of 'em.
    Yup.

    Here is Eric Cressey's site. I have e-mailed him before and his has gotten back to me with some great suggestions...

    http://www.ericcressey.com/home.html

    Same goes with Mike Robertson.

    Site...

    http://www.robertsontrainingsystems.com/

    E-mail...

    mike@robertsontrainingsystems.com

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    Thanks Ripstone and Built.
    LK- There's really a lot more to it then that. It's far from "doing nothing". Besides I ended up not getting to do that yet today, although I probably will get to next weekend.

    08/27

    Training- Off

    About 4miles cardio at work today. About a mile of that running between places during a fire alarm, they kept changing my damn post until the fire company got there. Then, I had to stand by the door for over half hour until the manager arrived to open the gates to the store for the fire company, since we don't have the keys to individual stores, and another half hour until the fire department left. Now, you would think that you'd know after a few minutes if there was a fire or not, and after 30minutes, at least half the building would probably be on fire, but what can I say, some of them ain't too smart. Ended up being a false alarm.

    Diet

    -Meal 1: protein shake w/half cup oats
    -Meal 2: can tuna and yogurt
    -Meal 3: 8oz. beef w/prego sauce and 2servings sweet potatoes
    -Meal 4: Mass XXX Shake made w/2cups milk
    -Meal 5: 8oz. chicken w/gravy, 3servings sweet potatoes, and Mass XXX Shake made w/2cups milk
    -Meal 6: 5chicken breast tenders, yogurt, and 1cup milk

    Calories: 5070
    Protein: 388
    Carbs: 601
    Fat: 109

    Today was not that great. Alot of stuff happened at work and I couldn't eat for 4 hours. Got my lunch at 10:00pm when I started at 3:30. So meal 5 ended up being a combination of what is usually 2 meals. It was the best I could do under the circumstances, so not totally bad.

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    08/28

    Training:

    HS Shoulder Press
    Reg. Grip:
    50x10x2
    90x8
    140x8
    180x5
    Hammer Grip:
    90x8
    140x8
    180x6
    180x6

    HS Seated Dips
    90x8
    140x8
    180x8
    230x5
    230x6

    Triceps Pushdowns (CG-Angled Bar on lat pulldown)
    75x10
    100x5
    100x5
    100x5
    Drop Set: 50x20

    Front Raises SS w/Side Raises
    20sx10/20sx10
    20sx10/20sx10
    20sx10/20sx10

    Weight: N/A
    Grade: A
    Time: 1hr. 40mins.

    Comments:
    -Just a light day today. All short of failure. Still paranoid about whether these are going to be good exercise selection or if some may be a bad idea, specifically the dips and shoulder press. Felt fine today, and they only involve chest a little, but I'll know tomorrow.

    Diet:

    -Meal 1: protein shake w/half cup oats
    -Meal 2: can tuna and yogurt
    -Meal 3: protein bar
    -Meal 4: 8oz. beef w/prego sauce and 1.5cups noodles
    -Meal 5: 2cups milk
    -Meal 6 (pre-w/o): 10chicken breast tenders and yogurt
    -Meal 7 (during-w/o): energy drink
    -Meal 8 (post-w/o): protein bar
    -Meal 9: 8oz. chicken w/gravy and 3servings sweet potatoes
    Later:
    -Meal 10: 4cups milk

    Calories: 4655
    Protein: 376.5
    Carbs: 492
    Fat: 134.5

    Ok diet. Kind of low calories today. It was my first day of school and I still have to get this stuff worked out.

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    Nice,SS front raises and side ohhhhhh the burn!
    You will soon see Getfit in OngII Flying Knee Thingys of Doom see if the feisty greek can survive the kicks of Steel Leg From Shaolin Soccer,Dim Mak(def touch) from ChungLee,and Flying Crane by Daniel-san-El Pietro

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    YAY for Hammer Strength!

    EAT PL87, EAT TO YOUR HEART's CONTENT
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    Thanks getfit and LK.

    So, I decided that it would be a better idea not to do the shoulder pressing and seated dips at least for the next 6 weeks or so. While it seems ok, I just don't want to take the risk and make recovery take even longer. So, I thought of a list of things I could do for triceps/shoulders:

    Triceps:
    skullcrushers
    all kinds of extensions w/dbs
    all kinds of pushdowns w/different attachments
    Shoulders:
    front/side raises
    rear delt work (usually on back day)

    If anyone can think of anything else for triceps/shoulders that doesn't involve chest let me know.

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    Awesome intesity in those workouts, girl. Your shoulder and arm strength is particularly impressive. I think you've got me beat in some things.
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    Hope the shoulder feels better soon!! Been there with shoulder pain and it's not fun!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guido
    Awesome intesity in those workouts, girl. Your shoulder and arm strength is particularly impressive. I think you've got me beat in some things.
    Thanks Guido. I've actually been doing quite a few light to moderate workouts recently. Only about once or twice a week has been heavy.

    Quote Originally Posted by muscle chic
    Hope the shoulder feels better soon!! Been there with shoulder pain and it's not fun!!
    Thanks musclechic, but actually, it's not shoulder problems I have right now (although that was also earlier this year, but has since gone away a while back now). I have a fairly minor pec tear, which I really wish I would have realized at first when I thought it was just a strain, b/c I'd be benching and doing chest work in no more than 3 weeks probably reasonably heavy. But, since I aggravated again due to my ignorance, it's going to be a long 8-10 weeks still.

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