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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

It’s no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Pride Boss: My Fighters Will "devour" Ufc Fighters

    Pride DSE president Sakakibara is gunning for the UFC in a big way according to Tokyo Sports newspaper in Japan. Sakakibara’s goal is to bring his show and fighters to America and takeover the UFC. This takeover plan involves his aim to take all the UFC belts and a supershow or an MMA superbowl of sorts.

    The first part of this takeover plan that was disclosed to Tokyo Sports is to happen in November at UFC 65 when Wanderlei Silva fights the UFC’s Chuck Liddell. And as Pres. Sakakibara puts it his fighters will “devour” all the UFC athletes.

    On July 8th Sakakibara and Wanderlei Silva attended UFC 61 and the Pride president was impressed with the MMA fervor. But, he said that he wasn’t going to stand idly by as the sport grows in America. He is going to put on a MMA superbowl next summer with plans to hold it in a football stadium. He said that whichever stadium they use it will have a capacity of over 60,000, and if they seat fans on the field it will be over 100,000. Sakakibara is confident with the MMA zeal in America that the stadium will be packed to capacity and that it will even surpass the attendance of the 2002 Dynamite show that was jointly promoted by Pride and K-1.

    Not only does Sakakibara plan on using a stadium to host his supershow but he mentioned the possibility of using a ring and a cage in the same event. Using the ring for round one, the cage for round two, and the ring for round three. Or vice versa. That way the Pride or UFC fighters can’t have an excuse about what they fought in.

    But Sakakibara realizes that “ it will be a fierce battle between the promoters.” And, he even expects that the UFC may storm the Pride show in Las Vegas on October 21st. But, his plan is to take all of the UFC belts, as Sakakibara said,” not just Silva alone, but Fedor, Yoshida, Fujita, and Gomi. I’m going to send these guys into the octagon to devour them first.” Starting this Fall, Sakakibara said Pride will start sending fighters to take the UFC titles, and then deliver the finishing blow at the MMA superbowl. Sakakibara stated, “If we take the titles, the UFC will have nowhere to run.”

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    If this happens it will be a interesting time in the sport of MMA.

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    Interesting for sure. Im not a huge fan (I watch a bit of PPV) but I would like to see what happens

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    Fedor > *

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    Sounds exciting. I'm sure Sylvia will be losing his belt, but other than that I think we'll be seeing some very competitive fights.

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    Wanderlei Silva looks like a bad bad man, I think he will give chuck a good fight. On that note I think that UFC 65 will be the first one I pay for.

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    They should just let Fedor fight all of the UFC champions at once.

    It'd be quicker.

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    UFC will pop a cap in Pride's ass:

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    If this happens I hope Pride walks all over UFC. I'd love to see Yoshida and Fedor dismantle the heavyweights of the UFC.
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    Each org has it's strengths.

    Lighweights: Easily Pride

    Welterweights: Hughes is the clear #1 in the world.

    Middles: Franklin same as above

    LightHeavies: Both have some good fighters in this class. We'll see what happens in UFC 65.

    Heavies: Easily Pride

    I hate that Pride doesn't fight in the Octagon. I think the pride fighters will have a very tough time with UFC rules. Putting Leben against Sylvia was stupid. Sylvia needed to fight a conteneder. Both orgs need each other to survive. UFC fans are getting bored of the same old rematches. Pride just lost a big tv contract in Japan and realizes that they need the American market.
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    I don't know the specifics, but I heard that the Pride organization somehow offended TVJapan execs and is no longer allowed to show their events on major networks in Japan. I'm sure this is part of the motivation behind their moving events to the U.S.

    There have been a lot of Pride vs. K1 tournaments that were pretty interesting. If things pan out, there could be some great Pride vs. UFC tournaments - I hope they get it going!
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    Liddel is gonna get 'devoured' by wandi. Id like to see Pride over on this side of the world forsure. Adds flavor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Kool
    And as Pres. Sakakibara puts it his fighters will “devour” all the UFC athletes.

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    UFC seems much more agressive and hardcore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beholder
    Liddel is gonna get 'devoured' by wandi. Id like to see Pride over on this side of the world forsure. Adds flavor.
    Pride has already been approved to hold bouts in the US.
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    "Now we're finally getting to the chicken or the egg question," I grinned. "Did I eat all that food because my size gives me more of an appetite, or did I get to be this big because I've been forcing myself to eat like this for years?"

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    The problem as I see it is that the UFC allows Elbows on the ground and Pride doesn't. Also Pride allows kicks to the head when you're down, whereas UFC doesn't.

    So, this should make a big difference to some of the matches.. ie Silva will probably lose to Liddell, because he's famous for taking them down and booting them in the melon...

    As for Fedor, I dont think ANYONE from any organization can touch him right now.. He's just not human...LOL... Actually if Liddell gained some weight I'd love to see Fedor drop him...LOL.. Would be so cool...

    Should make for some entertaining fights though....

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    The problem with UFC it seems like as soon as someone is knocked on the ground (stunned a little) and the ref runs over and stops the fight, and in a couple of seconds the guy knocked down is fine. In Pride there have been a bunch of fights where a guy has been knocked down and they would have called the fight in UFC, and that guy actually comes back and wins the fight. It seems they're a little to hasty at times in UFC to stop the fight. One that comes to mind is when Kevin Randleman fought in UFC. I don't remeber who he fought, but he got knocked down and the ref stopped the fight and Randleman was alright. He was pissed beyond all belief and couldn't understand why they stopped it, and I couldn't either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cphafner
    Putting Leben against Sylvia was stupid. Sylvia needed to fight a conteneder. Both orgs need each other to survive. UFC fans are getting bored of the same old rematches. Pride just lost a big tv contract in Japan and realizes that they need the American market.
    I think they put Sylvia vs. Leben because they wanted to get Sylvia out there quickly, which they did. Generated a lot of buzz, especially since many UFC fans saw Leben as a better fighter than he was.

    Nothing beats Pride's HWs for me: Nog, Cro Cop, Fedor, Randleman. Just freaking awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cphafner
    Lighweights: Easily Pride
    I don't watch enough Pride to compare too well, but I think the lightweights in the UFC are pretty solid. Sean Sherk, Melvin Guillard (if he can polish up at least) and some other guys that plan on dropping weight are going to be pretty tough. What are some of the Pride gus that are dominating this weight class?

    Edit: At the gym today someone said that Dana White might have canceled the Silva-Liddell fight and gave some BS reason. Any word on this?
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    I think if Pride wants to come over and stomp the UFC as they claim they can then they should do it in the octagon with UFC regulations. Once this has taken place turn the tables and throw the UFC guys in the ring (some time passing for recovery and instruction on other organizations regulations) with Pride regs to eliminate all the bs about "home field advantage". Either way it would be something to see.
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    Wow, that's a great idea. And simple too.

    They could each have a match on their respective turfs, and then have a tournament with combined formats/regulations.
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    dont get too excited. i read on an insider site wandy vs chuck is done, and its gonna be a chuck and tito rematch this november


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    Quote Originally Posted by JHolmes145
    dont get too excited. i read on an insider site wandy vs chuck is done, and its gonna be a chuck and tito rematch this november


    http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/...=2480&zoneid=3

    Yep, apparently it's done -- and most of the blame is with Pride. I think they have the better fighters, but this was a bull**** move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingJustin
    I don't watch enough Pride to compare too well, but I think the lightweights in the UFC are pretty solid. Sean Sherk, Melvin Guillard (if he can polish up at least) and some other guys that plan on dropping weight are going to be pretty tough. What are some of the Pride gus that are dominating this weight class?

    Edit: At the gym today someone said that Dana White might have canceled the Silva-Liddell fight and gave some BS reason. Any word on this?
    I don't believe any of the top 10 ranked lightweights are in the UFC. Pride would do some schooling in this weight class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MM
    Yep, apparently it's done -- and most of the blame is with Pride. I think they have the better fighters, but this was a bull**** move.
    This is a huge bummer. The UFC is going to lose a lot of fans unless they get away from all this rematch crap. It is getting very old very fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cphafner
    This is a huge bummer. The UFC is going to lose a lot of fans unless they get away from all this rematch crap. It is getting very old very fast.
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    Chuck vs. Babalu is something to look forward to, as is GSP vs. Hughes. Generally I agree, though -- the constant UFC rematches are getting tiresome. I'm praying for a Cro Cop/Fedor rematch sometime within the next few months, and I also want to see Frank Shamrock pwn Rich Franklin.
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