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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    strongest RB

    who do you think is the strongest running back in the NFL? strongest with stiff arms, breaking tackles, pounding the ball through the middle, and fighting for yards? i was thinking jamal lewis of the ravens, but is there someone better?

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    Jerome Bettis... but he retired, lol...

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    TIKI BARBER!! go giants!
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    Ahman Green. That guy has some incredible strength, and his ability to break tackles is outstanding.
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    Lendale White, if he loses some babyfat, could be a beast. Which is not good cuz his Titans are in the same division as my Colts

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharkall2003
    Ahman Green. That guy has some incredible strength, and his ability to break tackles is outstanding.

    Too bad he fumbles too much

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    Tiki workouts out like a mad man and has a huge squat, there are tons of strong dudes in the NFL its crazy
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    I agree with the Ahman Green statement that he is a bull but fumbles too much. He was one of the last power I backs comming out of Nebraska.
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    As a packer fan I have to say green, but honestly if you count fullbacks... Mike Alstot woud own almost everyone.

    Green did have a problem with fumbles, always did... its just when farve was in his stride he was so good he made up for it. That and they had such a good defense that even if the other team got the ball they couldnt do **** with it.

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    you all have to agree tiki barber had one of the best seasons i have ever seen last year. unstoppable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by homeboy7600
    who do you think is the strongest running back in the NFL? i was thinking jamal lewis of the ravens, but is there someone better?
    From an exercise/workout perspective, I have no idea.

    To answer your question, yes, I think Jamal Lewis is probably the answer, although I don't care for him.

    Pound for pound, Barry Sanders was pretty strange. The 1st time he was trying to get 2000 yards, back in December of 1994, he was playing against the Dolphins, and I remember that an interception was thrown. Barry literally picked the guy up, flipped him over his head, and threw him to the ground, in one quick motion. It was just odd to see.....a 5'8, 203 lb. Ninja Turtle picking up a linebacker and "reversing" him to the grass.

    Sanders squatted...not leg-press, like these other running backs actually do, but SQUATTED 600 lbs. as a 20 year old at Oklahoma State back in 1988.

    Anyway, enough of old stories: Like I said, I don't like him, but Jamal Lewis is probably most similar to a giant bowling ball with a jersey on, and I think that's what you were looking for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WBBIRL
    honestly if you count fullbacks... Mike Alstot would own almost everyone.
    It's funny that you mention him, because he was on my mind as well. Alstott used to get reamed after his first couple years because he'd fumble it in the red zone, but that's only because they couldn't bring him down, and he was propped-up for so long. It was the damndest thing.

    He just REFUSED to go down, and eventually, someone would poke the ball loose.

    I almost felt sorry for him, it was as if his "strange gift" was leaving him susceptible to turnovers. I won't call it a "fumble", since it was basically 11 guys at the goal line hacking away at him.
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    Sports Illustrated did a special on NFL players workouts in their magazine last summer. Here is a link that has some videos of Tiki squatting. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...3/nfl.workout/
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    Jamal Lewis has power, but he doesnt do any actual strength training. He does workouts like hitting a punching bag, and other things of that sort. There was an article on him in ESPN a few years back and when I read it I was like wow... he kept repeating that he had mad genes or something.

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    I'm gonna have to go with Ahman Green, although we didn't get to see his performance this past season due to injuries. Larry Johnson has to be my second. When Priest Holmes got injured last year on the Kansas City Chiefs he stepped up and showed what he was made of. I mean he started out later in the season and ended up with something like 1,750 yards? 20 touchdowns? He did awesome, and if he had played all year he would've definately been in the running for MVP.

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    Tiki has corrected his fumbling problem, and I respect that, but I'm doubting he loads up 750 on the Smith machine, if that's what they meant by "safety bar".

    That's an awful lot of weight to push for a guy who had only been seriously lifting weights, as he put it, for one off-season. (let's say 8 months)

    I'd be impressed if he could handle 500 on the Smith machine after 8 months of *serious* lifting, being that his former routine included mostly boxing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majestic
    It's funny that you mention him, because he was on my mind as well. Alstott used to get reamed after his first couple years because he'd fumble it in the red zone, but that's only because they couldn't bring him down, and he was propped-up for so long. It was the damndest thing.

    He just REFUSED to go down, and eventually, someone would poke the ball loose.

    I almost felt sorry for him, it was as if his "strange gift" was leaving him susceptible to turnovers. I won't call it a "fumble", since it was basically 11 guys at the goal line hacking away at him.
    Alstott gets my vote...RB/FB whatever.
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    Tiki is a VERY strong running back no doubt about that, but I feel there are better ball carriers out there. I've seen that video of him squatting before and for a running back to squat over 600 pounds is pretty damned good considering they can pretty much only train like that 4 months out of the year.

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    So you believe that Tiki squats, after 8 months of lifting, 300 more lbs than you, someone who is completely dedicated year-around to lifting weights?

    Tiki just "magically" quit boxing in the off-season, and starting squatting 700 lbs in the Smith machine?
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    He plays in the NFL man... im sure he has pretty good genetics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majestic
    So you believe that Tiki squats, after 8 months of lifting, 300 more lbs than you, someone who is completely dedicated year-around to lifting weights?

    Tiki just "magically" quit boxing in the off-season, and starting squatting 700 lbs in the Smith machine?

    For one, I have yet to complete a solid year of dedicated training at all let alone a year with proper diet and getting proper rest.

    For two, Tiki is atleast 10 years older then me and has probably trained very hard for much longer then I have trained at all.

    Thiers no magic involved, I've seen the video of him squatting so he's legit.

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    At 21 years old and 310 lbs., you're in quite a different weight class than Tiki, who is 31 years of age, 5'10", 210 lbs. with rapidly dwindling testosterone.

    I find it hard to believe that after boxing during the offseason for however many years, he "picked up" weight lifting and suddenly banged-out 750 in the Smith machine.

    Tiki can't squat 500, let alone 750. Whatever, I guess it doesn't matter. His career is almost over anyway. He could squat 905 and I guess it wouldn't make a difference.
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    as far as overal and big backs, id say jamal lewis, larry johnson, and rudi johnson, but pound for pound id hav to say Cadillac williams, ive watched him run through tacklers in college as wel as the nfl
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    I agree with Alstott. Nobody hits the line the way he does. I remember when he played college ball (Temple?) against WVU, and just PUNISHED our guys.
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