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    Stopping short on incline

    Heres the deal, i want to do some heavy BB incline tomorrow, but i have a problem going all the way down. I CAN go all the way down, but when i do my shoudlers crack and pop like mad and cause discomfort so i refuse to put on 225 and blow my shoulders out, is it ok if i stop like 2 inches short of my chest? i personally still feel it. especially when going heavy.

    And no, i dont want to do DB's lol.

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    If there is any discomfort why dont you swap out the exercise for something else? Chest dips or milli's if you can.

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    wags- dips dont touch my upper chest and i do them anyways in my chest day, and mili's are on shoulder day, i wanted specific upper chest work while using presses not flys, and to give flat bench a week off.
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    For incline work (and for close grip work for that matter) I prefer dumbells. I want a full range of motion more than I want to dick around with the damn bar trying to find a grip width that's comfortable to get all the way down.

    But my benches blow so I have no problems challenging myself with sub 100 DBs.
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    upper chest??

    LOL


    I had shoulder discomfor with flat BB benching, and just switched to dumbbells. For inclines, that would suck to get those in position, but it might be the way to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrelwooddowd
    upper chest??
    tuttut

    C'mon Stump, you've been here for quite a while.
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    Whatever, if he wants to hit his upper chest go for it. Stump I say stopping 2 inches short is fine if you still feel it gives you a good workout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidior
    Whatever, if he wants to hit his upper chest go for it. Stump I say stopping 2 inches short is fine if you still feel it gives you a good workout.

    How do you hit your upper chest...considering that it does not exist?

    There is no upper, lower, inner, or outer chest. There is only chest. There are a ton of threads on this. Type "upper chest" into the search function. Whether you do a dip or bench press the entire chest is worked. You may be able to focus slightly, very slightly on one part more than another...but not enough to achieve superior development and very likely not enough to achieve any gains (that you can see in the mirror).

    And yes, stopping 2-3 inches short is fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Songsangnim
    How do you hit your upper chest...considering that it does not exist?

    There is no upper, lower, inner, or outer chest. There is only chest. There are a ton of threads on this. Type "upper chest" into the search function. Whether you do a dip or bench press the entire chest is worked. You may be able to focus slightly, very slightly on one part more than another...but not enough to achieve superior development and very likely not enough to achieve any gains (that you can see in the mirror).

    And yes, stopping 2-3 inches short is fine.
    I agree with you, I was just saying I don't see the point in bringing up that played out debate when he was asking a simple question
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    Quote Originally Posted by Songsangnim
    How do you hit your upper chest...considering that it does not exist?

    There is no upper, lower, inner, or outer chest. There is only chest. There are a ton of threads on this. Type "upper chest" into the search function. Whether you do a dip or bench press the entire chest is worked. You may be able to focus slightly, very slightly on one part more than another...but not enough to achieve superior development and very likely not enough to achieve any gains (that you can see in the mirror).

    And yes, stopping 2-3 inches short is fine.
    I think im going to have to disagree. You can definatly focus more on the clavical than sternal with inclines.

    Stump, go for it, if you feel it then it must be working for you right?
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    Yes stopping shy of 2 inch should be ok

    BTW: 225 on an incline is impressive man *thumbs up*

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    How much incline do you use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumprrp
    Heres the deal, i want to do some heavy BB incline tomorrow, but i have a problem going all the way down. I CAN go all the way down, but when i do my shoudlers crack and pop like mad and cause discomfort so i refuse to put on 225 and blow my shoulders out, is it ok if i stop like 2 inches short of my chest? i personally still feel it. especially when going heavy.

    And no, i dont want to do DB's lol.

    thanks
    Listen you can get great results with "Partial Movements" so go do your half/threequarter movements, use heavy weights on machines and frames to save injury and work to failiar on low sets.
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    i did inclines with smith and stopped at about 2 inches, i tryed to hit and almost blew my right shoulder out.

    and there IS AN UPPER CHEST. its called the clavical i believe, and i feel it being hit with incline work, regular 45 ish degree bench. flat bench almost hits my entire chest.

    about the partial movements, i use them ALL THE TIME especially with flat bench, such as going to the chest and not locking out or going half rom, stress on the chest is considerable. i also like heavy squats partial for lockout and non-lockout SLDL's for hammy stress.
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    I don't do inclines, but I don't bring overhead presses down as far as possible. Leverage gets really bad at the bottom. Depending on the angle of the incline, I could see similar leverage problems. If you can more comfortably rep heavy weights through 80-90% of the ROM, but going 100% causes pain and a significant drop off in weight, well, obviously just use a slightly shorter ROM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumprrp
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    and there IS AN UPPER CHEST. its called the clavical i believe, and i feel it being hit with incline work, regular 45 ish degree bench. flat bench almost hits my entire chest.

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    No there is not. This "clavical" is ONE of the heads of the pectoralis major. It is NOT a separate muscle and thus can not be worked separately by different exercises. What you "feel" is simply the stress placed on the same muscle (plus more anterior deltoid) from a different angle. Do a search on "upper chest" and you will find this has been said before and done to death. There is no upper chest. Period. There is only chest. Before continuing to debate me on this, it might be wise to do a search OR google the functions and structure of the pectoralis major.
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    Stump, the clavicle is a bone, it's not a muscle. The pectoralis major is one muscle altogether.

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    You can definatly focus more on the clavical head than the sternal. DUH you cant totally isolate any part of the muscle. Stump, yeah your good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Songsangnim
    No there is not. This "clavical" is ONE of the heads of the pectoralis major. It is NOT a separate muscle and thus can not be worked separately by different exercises. What you "feel" is simply the stress placed on the same muscle (plus more anterior deltoid) from a different angle. Do a search on "upper chest" and you will find this has been said before and done to death. There is no upper chest. Period. There is only chest. Before continuing to debate me on this, it might be wise to do a search OR google the functions and structure of the pectoralis major.
    im not here to argue, so please just stop. i never said there was an upper chest i want an exersize that will stress that head of the pec more and the incline presses i did with less rom worked thank you.
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