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    how do i get....

    i dont know much about body building...and i was wondering how i can get huge....i bench around 120, ive been working out for a while now..i need ot get rid of my gut...and i wanna get good muscle fast...i take "classwic whey" made by ons....

    now i heard that creatine REALLY screws u up if u buy that and take it... s0o im gonna stay away from that stuff....


    what do u guys think?


    thanks,
    mike

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    Senior Member Eszekial's Avatar
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    1) Creatine is one of the best supplements you can take...

    2) Start by reading all the stickies in all the forums.. That's a damn good place to start.
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    s0o creatine doesnt hurt u at all? doesnt screw u up in the future?

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    I think you should be concerned about your training and diet before worrying about supplements.

    So ...

    What's your training routine? Include exercises, sets, reps, and frequency.

    What's your diet? Include protein, fat, carbs, calories, and food choices.
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    ok well, atleast 30 minute work outs... monday-wednesday-friday and i take weekend off
    benching-3sets of 10...at 120lbs
    curling- 3sets of 10....at around 35lbs
    not to sure about how much a leg press
    i work out my 4arms 3 sets of 20lbs
    i do sit ups and stuff like that....
    (i do more just dont really know that names really...)

    my diet could be better...i eat my vegatables, meat, fruits some nuts and seed and i tend to eat junk food when im bored and stuff, but im trying to break that habbit

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    Kingz16,
    Please take this as constructive criticism. Most new lifters I see in any gym are gangbusters the first few weeks - they train like madmen and buy any and every supplement that they think will propel them to hugeness. A month or two later, you never see them again. Let me save you some money and frustration with the following advice:

    *DO go to the gym regularly
    *DON'T go everyday and DON'T work out more than an hour/session

    *DO eat a lot of good food and get plenty of protein
    *DON'T fall into the kid-in-the-candy-store syndrome when you go to GNC or look at supplement ads. Of course they help, but at your level it's not what you need most.

    *DO keep a training log
    *DON'T spend hours pouring over it, analyzing it, tweaking it.

    *DO try to keep adding weight or reps.
    *DON'T ignore technique work. We ALL could be better.

    *DO stick to some kind of routine or template.
    *DON'T get into the habit of changing it whenever you hear about some new exercise or periodization scheme.... At the same time, DON'T assume that because you make gains with something, that you will ALWAYS make gains with it.
    A child does not learn to squat from the top down. In other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and make the conscious decision to stand. Squatting precedes standing in the developmental sequence. This is the way a child's brain learns to use the body as the child develops movement patterns. Therefore, a child is probably crawling, rocks back into a squatting position with the back completely relaxed and the hips completely flexed, and stands when he has enough hip strength. This approach makes a lot of sense and can be applied to relearning the deep squat movement if it is lost. -Gray Cook
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    Your routine is ... not so good.

    Pick your exercises from: squats, deadlifts, lunges, bench, overhead press, dips, rows, and chinups. When you get really good at these, consider some cleans and snatches.

    If you have no idea how many calories you are eating, don't even think about supplements. Start using www.fitday.com to record everything you eat. Yes, you have to measure/weigh your food. Yes, it's a pain in the ass. Yes, it is the best way to learn how to get results.

    And for the record, creatine is completely safe and is found in meat. But you don't need it right now. What you need is a good routine and a good diet. Trust me ... creatine and protein powders won't solve your problems!
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    Here is your new routine:
    http://www.wannabebig.com/printarticle.php?articleid=25

    Look up any exercises you dont understand here:
    http://www.exrx.net/Lists/Directory.html

    Track your diet on:
    http://www.fitday.com

    Your new supplement:
    700ml milk, 100g of oats, 4 tablespoons of peanut butter, 40g of a good quality whey protein
    Last edited by Davidelmo; 08-17-2006 at 09:24 AM.

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    thanks that helps a lot i appreceate it

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    will this stuff build me up fast? i know no matter what i do will take time and all, but just wondering..

    thanks,
    mike

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    Fast is relative.

    However, much faster then what you were doing, for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eszekial
    Fast is relative.

    However, much faster then what you were doing, for sure.

    True...with a solid routine you will see good gains...but remember diet is 75% if the equation. Look over those routines and see if you would like them or have all the equipment to do all the exercises. If not then feel free to ask any advice on structuring a routine that fits you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingz16
    will this stuff build me up fast? i know no matter what i do will take time and all, but just wondering..

    thanks,
    mike
    I've gained 40lbs in the last year and I still have a 6 pack - so I guess that's pretty fast!

    Diet is key. I wasted years in the gym before figuring it out!

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    i got a membership ting for that fitday website...now what do i do on it?

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    Track all the food you eat on it.
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