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    Wannabebig New Member
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    Some input from seasoned lifters

    sorry, i bet you all hate these kinds of threads but ive been working out for about 3 months now and the kids i work out with are all balls to the wall and **** seeing as how they play football for college and stuff. they tell me to try and make a natural foundation before i try any supplements which makes sense to me. im just about to turn 16, im 160 and 6,2 very lanky build. i actually gained 18 pounds this summer and now i almost look normal. i was just looking for some input from more experianced guys about supps and what they suggest.

    supps im currently looking at"
    N.o. Xplode- but im not ****in lazy, i dont need **** to make me lift but i hear it gets you huge.
    creatine- maybe some cellmass not quite sure
    just lookin for some help with this ****(sorry for the long read and help is appreciated)

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    In your situation I would say fish oil and a multivitamin are the only supps you really need. Creatine is another that I would take too, allthough not completely necessary, it's cheep, effective and some studies show health benefits too.

    I wouldn't worry too much about anything else, seems like your making good progress, just keep at it.

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    right now im just trying to eat every 2-3 hours i thinks thats why im making most of my gains....please respond with more opinions please!!!!

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    no no xplode, creatine sure, multivitamn, fishoil, and food..lots of food

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    It always amazes me how much teenagers are willing to flush down the toilet on supps, but won't eat breakfast... I'm not saying that's you - it's just a generality.

    This is not what you're going to want to hear, but my personal opinion on HS students and supplements is that the only thing they should bother with is a good multi-vitamin/mineral and maybe a protein powder. Other than that, get plenty of rest, train hard 3-4x/week, and eat lots of good food.

    Seriously, if I think about how much money I wasted on supplements when I was a teen it makes me cringe. If I could somehwo magically get back all the money I spent on octocosonal (sp?), inosine, MCT Fuel (and a myriad of other "fuels" that TwinLabs put out), liver tablets, and amino acids in the 80s and early 90s, I swear I could EASILY use it for a car down-payment, start a sizable IRA for my kid, or have damn nice home gym.
    A child does not learn to squat from the top down. In other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and make the conscious decision to stand. Squatting precedes standing in the developmental sequence. This is the way a child's brain learns to use the body as the child develops movement patterns. Therefore, a child is probably crawling, rocks back into a squatting position with the back completely relaxed and the hips completely flexed, and stands when he has enough hip strength. This approach makes a lot of sense and can be applied to relearning the deep squat movement if it is lost. -Gray Cook
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    wait wait, i eat very properly i wake up at about 8-9 every day and i do eat breakfast which consists of oatmeal or eggs. 6 eggs each morning but i do that bout 4 days a week and then eat oatmeal the rest of the week to change it up, i dont feel like naming my eating regime but its very healthy, consisting of tuna(love fish) steak chicken and beef. im on a multivitamin and cyto gainer for extra calories for gaining weight. im not looking to blow money on anything right now i was just looking for opinions on training and those 2 supps i named.

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    I thought I was clear about my opinion on supplements and that I was not speaking about you specifically, just teens in general when I said "I'm not saying that's you - it's a just a generality."...

    Cripes, just buy the supps already!
    A child does not learn to squat from the top down. In other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and make the conscious decision to stand. Squatting precedes standing in the developmental sequence. This is the way a child's brain learns to use the body as the child develops movement patterns. Therefore, a child is probably crawling, rocks back into a squatting position with the back completely relaxed and the hips completely flexed, and stands when he has enough hip strength. This approach makes a lot of sense and can be applied to relearning the deep squat movement if it is lost. -Gray Cook
    Lifting Clips: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=johnnymnemonic2
    Blog: http://squatrx.blogspot.com/

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    Wow people waste a lot of $$$ on dumb ****.

    Sensei already laid it down, just listen up and stick to the basics, that's all you need.
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    and I always win

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    MILK and lots of it, its cheap and does pretty much the same as all those fancy supplements.
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    I would consider myself a semi-experienced lifter. All I take at this point is whey. The difference between a noob on no supplements and a noob on every supplement would be negligable in my opinion. Diet is soooo much more important than supplements, just eat a ton of peanut butter instead.

    By the way, you look like you have a pretty good diet.

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