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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Its no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Weak or normal?

    Is 60-70 lbs on squats/deadlifts normal for an average 16yr old female?? Or am i just weak at the moment? :S

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    How long have you been training?
    You will soon see Getfit in OngII Flying Knee Thingys of Doom see if the feisty greek can survive the kicks of Steel Leg From Shaolin Soccer,Dim Mak(def touch) from ChungLee,and Flying Crane by Daniel-san-El Pietro

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    almost 2 months but ive been lifting on and off (cuz of vacations) since bginning of june.

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    I'd say that's pretty good. I'm positive that there are 16 year old boys who can't do that much. In fact, I'm sure a surprising number of men couldn't do that.

    Don't worry about what normal is though. You do what you can do, and then you try to do a little more.
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    what does your overall split look like? diet?

    what are your goals?
    You will soon see Getfit in OngII Flying Knee Thingys of Doom see if the feisty greek can survive the kicks of Steel Leg From Shaolin Soccer,Dim Mak(def touch) from ChungLee,and Flying Crane by Daniel-san-El Pietro

    Spray it with windex greek!-the famous El Pietro

    You be quiet or i'll clean and press your narrow francophone self-Callahan

    Lift for gains,not glory.Control your ego and the weight

    What a strong girl! This leads me to believe you can severly injure most of the male population-Nick Hatfield

    You're blazing white hot,anyone ever tell you that? Sometimes i think you have fingers faster then Superman when it comes to posts on WBB forums.
    Hot in terms of both speed and... well new hotness- Stash

    gain 50lbs-Anthony

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    Sounds like you're on the right track. As said above, don't worry too much about comparing yourself with others. Everyone starts at different levels, it's how you progress that matters.
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    Well I asked cuz I know I could push myself harder and try to lift more.


    getfit - I'm doing the WBB#1 routine and im trying to bulk but its been hard for me cuz of school and appetite problems.

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    Well, your goal each week should be more weight or more reps. So if you can handle more weight with good form, go for it!
    Last edited by Anthony; 09-14-2006 at 11:12 AM.
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    Okay, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teaturtle
    Is 60-70 lbs on squats/deadlifts normal for an average 16yr old female?? Or am i just weak at the moment? :S
    How many reps are you doing with those weights? If you are doing that for reps then you are doing fine for how long you've been working out.
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    Don't worry so much about how you compare to others, just keep improving.

    I'd bet that compares quite well to most, however.
    Squats work better than supplements.
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    Just the fact that your squating and dealifting puts you mile ahead.
    Face it: biceps are the muscle that classifies you as a muscle man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clawhammer_33
    Just the fact that your squating and dealifting puts you mile ahead.
    Heeh that is true, thanks.

    Guido - I'm doing the WBB1 routine so 6-8 reps.

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    Are they full squats? To parallel? If so that's pretty good. When I get back to squatting I'm going to be using just the bar. It's going to be rough on my fragile ego

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    Yeah, that sounds like a great weight for a beginner. Congrats.


    P.S. to bjohnso, why would you just be doing the bar if your squat is 245, injury?...

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    as long as youre doing full range of movement with good form for squats and deadlifts, don't even worry about the weight, just aim for progression.

    I think the amount of weight you're lifting is pretty average.
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    You're 16? I thought you were older. And like everyone else said, don't compare yourself to others. The only person you should be focusing on to get stronger than is...well...yourself. Just stick with it and keep progressing. You're doing just fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteman90909
    Yeah, that sounds like a great weight for a beginner. Congrats.


    P.S. to bjohnso, why would you just be doing the bar if your squat is 245, injury?...
    Yeah, injury. Plus I plan on squatting sumo style when I get back to it. I've been squatting olympic style so sumo is harder for me.

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    Im squatting to parrallel but it puts some pressure on my knees :[

    Is this normal or should I do something about it? I just started taking glucosamine/msm/chondroitin pills to help a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorge Sanchez
    I'd say that's pretty good. I'm positive that there are 16 year old boys who can't do that much. In fact, I'm sure a surprising number of men couldn't do that.

    Don't worry about what normal is though. You do what you can do, and then you try to do a little more.
    I can back that up by saying that two kids at the gym that are 16 cant squat more than 55lbs, I wouldnt worry about it.

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    cool, makes me feel a bit better

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    Quote Originally Posted by teaturtle
    cool, makes me feel a bit better
    this isnt a competition, just improve yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teaturtle
    Im squatting to parrallel but it puts some pressure on my knees :[

    Is this normal or should I do something about it? I just started taking glucosamine/msm/chondroitin pills to help a bit.
    Try squatting ATF (Ass To Floor). This should take the pressure off of your knees, some of it anyway.

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    Knees can't go over feet when doing ATF squats right?

    nhlfan - Im not trying to get better than everyone else, I am trying to improve myself. To improve myself, I need confidence and knowing that Im better than atleast one person gives me that. So it's nothing personal, just a little boost to help keep me going. Ive always had low self esteem but lifting has given me more so yay

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    Quote Originally Posted by teaturtle
    Knees can't go over feet when doing ATF squats right?


    Over feet, but not too far past toes.
    Face it: biceps are the muscle that classifies you as a muscle man.

    Striding across the fields, carrying a vorpal blade, cometh Clawhammer! And he gives a bloodthirsty bellow:

    "As sure as predators devour prey, I shall paint the town a sanguine shade of doom!!!"
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