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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Shoulders/random ****

    Push Press
    135 x 5
    135 x 5
    185 x 5
    225 x 2
    245 x 1
    265 x 1
    280 x 1
    285 x miss

    Rear Delt Row
    150 x 10
    200 x 5
    230 x 3
    220 x 6

    Rear Delt Machine
    3 pps x 10
    3 pps + 25 x 10 x 2

    Seated Calf Raise
    4 plates x 15
    5 plates x 12
    5 p + 25 x 12
    5 plates x 15

    Depletion Cable Flys and Tricep Pushdowns

    5 pound PR on push-press, I think lol. Slowly working my way up to 300. 285 was pretty close, just couldn't lock it out.
    Best lifts: 615/475/660, Raw w/ Wraps
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    Holy **** that's an insane push press!
    Age: 24 Height: 5'9" Weight: 185

    Gym PRs: 365/240/440=1045

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    Lol. I think I surprised a few people in the gym when they were expecting me to squat the weight and it ended up above my head instead.
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    Wow man that's some damn strong push pressing. Do you just use the leg drive, or do you actually use leg drive + leg split? Like jumping up while pressing, but obviously more technical than that. How do you handle a fail with that much weight? +1 for the OLY squats.
    22 - 5'11'' - 190 lb
    PR's - Squat 350 | Bench 290 | Deadlift 400.4 | BW 203
    P Clean 98 KG | Jerk 106 | Full Clean 106 |
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    No clue what the leg split is to be honest, I just use leg drive like a normal push-press. Usually if I fail the bar won't be too far up and I can control it back down, it does get a little scary with anything over 250 though. I've lost it just at lockout a couple times and came real close to ****ing stuff up. Lately I've been setting the safety bars really high so I can just drop the weight if I have to.
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    This is the closest vid I could find to the way I do it:

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    Last edited by Invain; 03-14-2010 at 09:53 PM.
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    Okay cool deal, you strong mofo. What I meant by leg split was like if you were cleaning, you actually take your feet off the ground during the movement. But I gotcha... I used to do this, I ought to start em up again.
    22 - 5'11'' - 190 lb
    PR's - Squat 350 | Bench 290 | Deadlift 400.4 | BW 203
    P Clean 98 KG | Jerk 106 | Full Clean 106 |
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    ^

    It's called a jerk, dood!
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    What you mean? Nah I didn't mean forward/backward split, just the movement your legs and feet produce when doing a power clean basically, but obviously while push pressing.
    22 - 5'11'' - 190 lb
    PR's - Squat 350 | Bench 290 | Deadlift 400.4 | BW 203
    P Clean 98 KG | Jerk 106 | Full Clean 106 |
    Philippians 4:13 - "I can do anything through Christ who strengthens me."
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    Yeah, when you're feet leave the ground, it's no longer a push press, it's a jerk. Your feet don't necessarily have to split apart to be a jerk, that would be a split jerk.
    Age: 24 Height: 5'9" Weight: 185

    Gym PRs: 365/240/440=1045

    People need to quit ****ing asking what they need to do, exercise wise, until they reinforce their technique - Dave Tate

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    Insane push press Invain. When you say rear delt row, how are you preforming that exercise exactly?
    Success is achieved by doing a little more than you thought you could, and a lot more than anyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by View 1 View Post
    Insane push press Invain. When you say rear delt row, how are you preforming that exercise exactly?
    http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...arDeltRow.html
    Last edited by Invain; 03-16-2010 at 09:27 PM.
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    Back and Bi's

    Rack Pull (bar right in line w/ knee caps)
    315 x 5
    405 x 5
    455 x 2
    495 x 2
    515 x 2
    525 x 1
    540 x 1
    ~Sumo~
    495 x 2
    525 x 1
    550 x 1
    565 x 1
    575 x 1

    Barbell Shrugs
    405 x 15
    475 x 18

    Lat Pulldown
    150 x 5
    200 x 5
    250 x 10
    250 x 6

    Standing Barbell Curl
    95 x 5
    135 x 4
    120 x 8
    100 x 12

    Felt good today. Rack pulls felt alright, backed off a little at the end because my back just wasn't feeling right. I think I'm making progress but I can definitely tell it takes me way longer to fully recover from real heavy pulling on this diet.
    Best lifts: 615/475/660, Raw w/ Wraps
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    Quote Originally Posted by View 1 View Post
    Insane push press Invain. When you say rear delt row, how are you preforming that exercise exactly?
    LOL!
    Age: 24 Height: 5'9" Weight: 185

    Gym PRs: 365/240/440=1045

    People need to quit ****ing asking what they need to do, exercise wise, until they reinforce their technique - Dave Tate

    The never-ending pursuit of becoming Strong(er) - My Westside journal

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    I don't understand wtf is going on. Did/does anybody else see a pic that said pwned in place of the exrx gif? I figured it was just an anti-hotlinking pic, but now I'm seeing the original gif again.
    Best lifts: 615/475/660, Raw w/ Wraps
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    Great workout, big numbers throughout.

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    big numbers man...i've been keeping up with your log as i've been on the AD diet in some form or another for the past 3 years....glad im not the only one to notice that recovery is not as fast heh

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    Yeah I can definitely tell a slight difference. I've been playing around with protein lately and so far it seems like a significant increase on training days helps with recovery, however. It's only been a week, so I'm going to give it maybe a month before I form a real opinion.
    Best lifts: 615/475/660, Raw w/ Wraps
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    Hoooly fawk you're strong bro. How many weeks out are you... you need to get some pics up in here, you sound like a mother****ing breast. What show you doing?
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    About 14 weeks out. Doing a small natty show here in Ann Arbor, organization is called Executive Productions, never heard of them before lol. Depending on how it all works out I may do an NPC show in July as well, in Detroit.
    Best lifts: 615/475/660, Raw w/ Wraps
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    ?Whats the current weight and bf?
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    Great back workout, I have never tried doing rack pulls sumo style but that may be due to the fact the power rack at our gym has no really low holes, its knee high for me but its higher than lower.

    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    LOL!
    What was so funny about what I asked?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Behemoth View Post
    ?Whats the current weight and bf?
    Right around 190, 8 - 10% bf. I'm pretty bad at estimating bf% but I'm pretty sure I'm sub 10% now. Lower ab veins, quad striations, etc.
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    Chest and Tri's

    Incline Bench
    135 x 10
    135 x 10
    225 x 5
    255 x 2
    270 x 2
    280 x 2
    230 x 7

    Dips
    Bw + 90 x 10
    Bw + 135 x 5
    Bw + 160 x 4
    Bw + 135 x 5

    Cable Flys (weight is total)
    110 x 10
    130 x 10
    150 x 5
    170 x 5
    180 x 5

    Tate Press
    30 x 10
    40 x 10
    55 x 10
    60 x 8

    Energy was **** during inclines, I'd eaten a few hundred grams of carbs a couple hours prior and it was all sitting in my stomach; made me nauseas during most of my workout. Big pr on dips, only problem is I'm getting heavy enough now that the weight is killing my wrists. Only my second time doing tate presses, I really like them, wearing elbow sleeves helps a ton too. Last time I didn't use my sleeves and they destroyed my elbows.
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    Session is nice dude, killer dips and inclines.

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