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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Quote Originally Posted by JSully View Post
    +1

    this especially applies to tendons and ligaments. They don't grow/strengthen at the same rate skeletal muscle does..

    furthermore, unless you plan to step on stage, why are you doing flyes? They don't carry over to anything and you can get the same growth out of some tempo benching or even some high rep stuff after your heavy stuff.

    My best growth came from working up to something heavy for 1-3 reps, then dropping down to 2-3 sets of 5-10 on the major lifts. Maybe it's just the PLer in me, but if it doesn't carry over to your goals (which APPEAR to be powerlifting), what's the point of doing it?

    on a side note, ice + rest + lacrosse ball massages. I don't know how long your cycle is, but what if you did some type of block training? hypertrophy for 4 weeks, strength for 4 weeks, hyp, str, etc.. That will give your tendons/ligaments time to heal and grow stronger while maintaining strength in the muscle and getting some growth as well.

    Good luck brother, heal up.
    I still have a good 2 months + left. I very rarely do flyes, was just noting that these hurt the worst; hoping somebody would have some insight as to what the problem is. Why the hell would a 300 pound wide grip bench feel ok, but a 40 pound fly feels like absolute shit?

    I appreciate all the advice guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Invain View Post
    Why the hell would a 300 pound wide grip bench feel ok, but a 40 pound fly feels like absolute shit?
    I'm not a doc, but that says to me its likely a bicep issue where it attaches up near the pec/delt insertion point. From there you have to diagnose tendon or muscle issue. A muscle issue will heal itself in 2-3 weeks, tendon issues stick around much much longer. If I had to guess, I would say it's a tendon issue since you've been complaining about it for a few months.

    1) if it hurts, don't do it
    2) no flyes for at least 4 weeks (or ever IMO)
    3) after 4 weeks, start doing BAND flyes w/no weight, high reps like 30-50
    4) see an ART or MT to work scar tissue

    just some thoughts.. I'm stubborn and won't go see a doc unless it's a serious injury that stops me from training. I assume everyone is like me so I'm not going to tell you to see a doc.
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    back off the curls too.. curl jockey

    lol
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    I thought it was my bicep for quite a while as well. I'm pretty convinced now it's my pec tendon however. I can feel right where it is when I foam roll the area.
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    Front Squats
    135 x 10
    135 x 10
    225 x 5
    275 x 2
    315 x 1
    345 x 1
    370 x 1
    400 x 1
    415 x 1
    425 x fail
    350 x 6

    Seated DB Curls
    35 x 10
    45 x 5
    50 x 10
    50 x 10

    Felt awesome today, no idea why. Form on front squats was picture perfect, hams touching calves at the bottom. I should have had 425, got it out of the hole just fine but I started to get dizzy and bailed.
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    good to see you havent torn anything

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    Lol, good shit man. I remember a few times I've gone for a heavy squat, went down, and didn't remember how I got back to standing. Lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bako Lifter View Post
    Lol, good shit man. I remember a few times I've gone for a heavy squat, went down, and didn't remember how I got back to standing. Lol.
    This was exactly what the 415 felt like. Got super light headed on the way up, was like wtf did I actually squat that or what? Started to happen again half way up with 425 so I bailed, didn't feel like passing out with 400 pounds on my shoulders.
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    Squats
    135 x 10
    135 x 5
    225 x 5
    315 x 2
    405 x 2
    455 x 1
    495 x 1
    520 x 1
    ~Wraps~
    550 x 1

    Front Squat
    275 x 10

    Seated DB Curl
    35 x 5
    35 x 5
    50 x 10
    50 x 10

    Barbell Curl
    105 x 5
    105 x 12

    Well that's the most I've ever squatted, and I'm still cutting pretty hard, so I'd say I'm right on track.
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    Impressive numbers man...strong work! Where do you train at in MI?
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    Thanks man. I train in Grand Rapids. I've done a couple meets put on by Detroit Barbell, I've probably seen you at them if you've competed these last couple years.
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    Strong squats. 550 is no joke.

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    World class #'s man.

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    Thanks guys.

    Military Press
    Bar x 20
    135 x 10
    165 x 5
    190 x 3
    225 x 1
    230 x 3
    205 x 7

    Cable Lateral Raise

    Pushdowns

    Rope Pushdowns
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    Some damn strong pressing there mate, good going!
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    Damn brother nice squatting especially on a big cut... Good work. And those mili presses are sick!! 230 for 3 is ridiculous. What's your PR? on those? 240?
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    Way to maintain such outstanding lifts.

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    Thanks guys. Appreciate the comments.

    Quote Originally Posted by jed View Post
    Damn brother nice squatting especially on a big cut... Good work. And those mili presses are sick!! 230 for 3 is ridiculous. What's your PR? on those? 240?
    PR is 245 I think. I'm finally making progress with Military Press, though I still feel it's low compared to my bench.

    So I think I found the source of my injury. I believe it's the "Coracobrachialis". As I've said before, the pain seems to be right where the bicep/delt/pecs all tie in together. I thought it was possibly a bicep tendon, but I've never had any pain doing curls, no matter how much weight I use.

    After looking at the diagram below, that's the exact spot I feel tenderness/pain when I feel around with my fingers. Right under the bicep, but not the bicep itself.

    I think this would also explain why I get so much pain doing something like a fly movement, while neutral grip flat bench doesn't hurt nearly as much.

    Last edited by Invain; 07-13-2012 at 09:00 AM.
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    Front Squats
    135 x 10
    225 x 5
    315 x 2
    365 x 1
    385 x 1
    405 x 2
    370 x 4

    Rope Hammer Curls
    100 x 10
    130 x 10
    160 x 8
    180 x 6

    EZ-Bar Curls
    100 x 10
    100 x 12

    Energy was complete shit today but I still felt strong on squats.
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    Glad you may have pinpointed the injury mate... Make sure to ice and most importantly stretch a ton as you know. Hopefully you can come out of it soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Invain View Post
    So I think I found the source of my injury. I believe it's the "Coracobrachialis". As I've said before, the pain seems to be right where the bicep/delt/pecs all tie in together. I thought it was possibly a bicep tendon, but I've never had any pain doing curls, no matter how much weight I use.
    Good detective work. Avoid those flyes...

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    Thanks guys. I've been massaging it a lot lately, and I also skipped all chest work these last two weeks. Seems to be feeling a lot better, gonna test things out on bench this week.

    For anybody lurking in here, I need some opinions. My next meet is going to be sometime in September. I've been cutting for the past 6 - 7 weeks and I'm coming up to the half-way point in my cycle. The plan was to cut the first half and then start slowly adding some weight back on up until the meet and compete at 220. The way my strength has been lately despite pretty low ass calories, I'm really considering going all out and shooting for 198 again. I'm just worried I'd be sacrificing too much potential strength gain. If I did make 198 however, I could have a good shot at some records.

    My weight is hovering right around 200/205 depending on how many carbs I've eaten. I think I'm probably about the leanest I've ever been, but I could still shave off another 5 - 10 pounds and continue to make some decent strength gains. I just don't know what kind of numbers I could put up if I dropped the diet and put 15 - 20 pounds back on.

    Opinions? I'll try to take some pics in the next week or two so you guys have an idea of where I'm at.
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    I'd honestly go for 198 man. I've been reading this journal pretty consistently, and though your gains are incredible, I'm concerned as hell that your connective tissue is getting near the breaking point. I've been there, man, when things start popping and straining, it just gets worse.

    At a ripped 198, you'll blow records out of the water, look ridiculous, and give your body a BIT of a break.

    Just my $0.02. Whatever you do, keep kicking ass!
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    I agree with Alex, a shredded 198 pound record setter is better than a big 220 pound strong guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex.V View Post
    I'd honestly go for 198 man. I've been reading this journal pretty consistently, and though your gains are incredible, I'm concerned as hell that your connective tissue is getting near the breaking point. I've been there, man, when things start popping and straining, it just gets worse.

    At a ripped 198, you'll blow records out of the water, look ridiculous, and give your body a BIT of a break.

    Just my $0.02. Whatever you do, keep kicking ass!
    I've been kind of thinking the same way as far as my body goes, this is honestly the most I've ever been injured, and it's really been making me spin my wheels as far as training goes.
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