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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Its no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Invain View Post
    Something like 100 - 150 grams fat, 25 - 75 grams carbs, 225 - 250 grams protein.
    interesting.

    my cutting plan is going to be a carb cycle or sorts, to maintain performance specifically. 2 no carb days (more like 25-50g carbs) followed by 1 high carb day to replenish glycogen (probably 400-600g carbs).. will probably keep protein 225-250 as well and fat somewhere around 65-85, higher on low carb days, lower on high carb days..

    goal is to be 250 @ 14% bf.

    what would you estimate your bodyfat? 8%ish?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JSully View Post
    interesting.

    my cutting plan is going to be a carb cycle or sorts, to maintain performance specifically. 2 no carb days (more like 25-50g carbs) followed by 1 high carb day to replenish glycogen (probably 400-600g carbs).. will probably keep protein 225-250 as well and fat somewhere around 65-85, higher on low carb days, lower on high carb days..

    goal is to be 250 @ 14% bf.

    what would you estimate your bodyfat? 8%ish?
    Yeah the high carb day is definitely essential. That's the only thing I've been skimping on lately and I do notice a difference when glycogen is really low.

    I'd say I'm at least 10% or below. My legs are finally starting to get pretty lean and that's where I store a lot of my fat. Just have a tiny bit left in the love handle area.
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    Deadlifts (Conventional)
    225 x 10
    315 x 5
    405 x 5
    495 x 1
    555 x 1
    600 x 2
    570 x 3

    Lat Pulldowns
    150 x 10
    200 x 5
    250 x 5
    270 x 10

    Cable Curls
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    140 x 5
    180 x 5
    200 x 6
    170 x 10

    Will post the dead vid in a few minutes.
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    So, I really wanted 600 x 3, and I kinda thought about going for it, but halfway up with the second rep I let out a teeny little shart, and that really scared me away from attempting a third. Lol.... The second rep actually looks harder/slower in the vid than it felt.

    First time pulling heavy conventional in many months, so I was kinda just testing the waters. Back feels amazing right now. Gonna go heavier in a couple weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Invain View Post
    Deadlifts (Conventional)
    225 x 10
    315 x 5
    405 x 5
    495 x 1
    555 x 1
    600 x 2
    570 x 3
    what program are you following? that is an unusual weight progression then drop down.. why 555 over 545? why 570 over 585?
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    I've never followed a specific program. I dunno why I went 555 over 545 tbh. I went 570 instead of something heavier because I really didn't want to murder my back this week. I could have gotten 4, maybe 5 with 570, but like I said, didn't really wanna go all out.
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    What I would pay to see you blow your ass gasket in the middle of a 600 lb deadlift... Damn, you really let me down.
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    Jesus.. Thats a sldl, lol

    Keeo your ass down man, your in a terrible position to lock out.. that'll turn into an easy lift when you keep your ass down
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    Quote Originally Posted by JSully View Post
    Jesus.. Thats a sldl, lol

    Keeo your ass down man, your in a terrible position to lock out.. that'll turn into an easy lift when you keep your ass down
    My form has been like that for so long. It actually used to be worse. I honestly don't know how to keep my ass down. I've tried working on it a billion times, but once I get over a certain weight, my hips just shoot up right at the start.

    Any suggestions? I've brought my hams up a lot from all the sumo pulling, I notice it in squats, but it hasn't seemed to help my dead. I might try with wider stance next week.
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    Your back has that thickness that so many can't get. How tall are you? I would have guessed more like 230 than 205. Did you stay this lean the whole time or did you cut down a bit?
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    Maybe starting with the hips too low? I'd mess around with starting just below where they shoot up to and hammer on keeping them there until the bar is right below the knee. Head up and chest up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cphafner View Post
    Your back has that thickness that so many can't get. How tall are you? I would have guessed more like 230 than 205. Did you stay this lean the whole time or did you cut down a bit?
    This is probably the leanest I've ever been. I'm around 5' 9".

    Quote Originally Posted by joey54 View Post
    Maybe starting with the hips too low? I'd mess around with starting just below where they shoot up to and hammer on keeping them there until the bar is right below the knee. Head up and chest up.
    Yeah that whole starting sequence is just bad. I sit way down and the instant I start pulling my ass and hips shoot right back up.

    Part of the problem is I'm pulling in front of a mirror, which distracts me a little. My form always seems to be better at meets because I can't see myself, and thus focus more on keeping my chest up and head back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Invain View Post
    Part of the problem is I'm pulling in front of a mirror
    I feel undeserving to try to give you advice on anything, but... Try turning around and face away from the mirror for one. I remember when I did that (I thought the mirror helped) and I hit a 20 lb PR the first time. If you are surrounded by mirrors (can't turn around because there's another one), turn on the 1000 yard stare and just space out.

    Next for the hips. I find it helps when you really focus on leaning back and DIGGING those heels into the floor. Pretend you are leg pressing the whole goddamn floor and pushing through it. This really engages the quads and legs/hips as a whole. Keep leaned back - may feel awkward at first but you'll correct yourself and you won't fall over. You have 500 lbs in your hands counterbalancing you.

    Also like Joey said don't start with them too low. I used to have the same issue and I'd start a lift with way too much hip and leg and wouldn't even be able to get it off the ground. That or they'd shoot right up... Start right under where they will engage the best.

    Give it a shot and see. Maybe you've tried it before but if not it's worth trying.
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    Lol. Any advice is appreciated Jed, thanks.

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    Nothing spectacular today, just wanted to see what heavier weight would feel like. No pain with 405, which is awesome. Felt pretty good considering I haven't benched anything over 365 in months; my grip was a little on the narrow side as I'm still trying to be careful with my pec, which made the 405 a little slower than I'd like.
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    Christ man, 405 is awesome. I'd be interested to a see a vid of your bench form sometime. Just out of curiousity, when was the last time you cycled? I don't recall hearing anything about it for a long time.
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    You have 500 lbs in your hands counterbalancing you.
    600*, lol.

    Bout fucking time you updated your sig. Who keeps 6 month old PRs down there?
    Anyways, nice bench. If everything goes accordingly, what are you hoping to get at the next meet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jed2009 View Post
    Christ man, 405 is awesome. I'd be interested to a see a vid of your bench form sometime. Just out of curiousity, when was the last time you cycled? I don't recall hearing anything about it for a long time.
    I'd rather discuss that stuff via PM if you're really interested.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bako Lifter View Post
    600*, lol.

    Bout fucking time you updated your sig. Who keeps 6 month old PRs down there?
    Anyways, nice bench. If everything goes accordingly, what are you hoping to get at the next meet?
    I'm shooting for 1650 @ 198. I'm really close right now, and the meet is about 4 - 6 weeks away, so it's looking good. All comes down to my bench. If I can get things healed up completely, I know my bench will jump quite a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joey54 View Post
    Maybe starting with the hips too low? I'd mess around with starting just below where they shoot up to and hammer on keeping them there until the bar is right below the knee. Head up and chest up.
    this..I think you're sinking too low.

    the mirror thing that jed talks about is interesting. I like having the mirror there but I've done it enough times I know the position I need to be in. With the mirror there, if you can't see your chest in the mirror, you're ass has shot up. "Head up, chest up" is big here. Pull BACK, not up. Push your feet through the floor, don't pull the weight straight up.

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    Front Squats
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    ~Light Wraps~
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    430 x 1
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    Lighter day today; hammered my lower back last week. 430 felt pretty good despite having shit for energy today. Gonna give 450 a shot in a few weeks.
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    Some insane front squatting numbers. Do you find it carries over to your regular squat well? Always neglected the movement as i'm really weak on it but thinking about incorporating it into my routine for a while.
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    Man it's awesome to come into a journal, see a 430 front squat, and see the dude say "light day today". You are inspirational dude, keep it up.

    I should mention when "the dude" isn't 350 pounds that is! No offense to any big beast PLers reading
    Last edited by jed2009; 08-29-2012 at 12:23 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kong View Post
    Some insane front squatting numbers. Do you find it carries over to your regular squat well? Always neglected the movement as i'm really weak on it but thinking about incorporating it into my routine for a while.
    It carries over in the sense that I can still hit my quads hard while giving the rest of my body a break. I can't do heavy back squats every week along with pulling, it just murders my lower back.

    Quote Originally Posted by jed2009 View Post
    Man it's awesome to come into a journal, see a 430 front squat, and see the dude say "light day today". You are inspirational dude, keep it up.

    I should mention when "the dude" isn't 350 pounds that is! No offense to any big beast PLers reading
    Honestly one of my goals is to prove to people that you don't have to be fat or carry a lot of extra weight in order to move heavy shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Invain View Post
    Honestly one of my goals is to prove to people that you don't have to be fat or carry a lot of extra weight in order to move heavy shit.
    God that is refreshing. Thank you.


    I have the non body fat part down, just need to figure out how to get strong again lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Invain View Post
    It carries over in the sense that I can still hit my quads hard while giving the rest of my body a break. I can't do heavy back squats every week along with pulling, it just murders my lower back.
    interesting, my core is absolutely wrecked after front squats, moreso than back squats, only difference is I can't move as much weight with fronts (yet)
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    Quote Originally Posted by JSully View Post
    interesting, my core is absolutely wrecked after front squats, moreso than back squats, only difference is I can't move as much weight with fronts (yet)
    Weird, I honestly don't feel shit in my core when I do front squats, no matter the weight.
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