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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

By: Nick Tumminello Added: January 6th, 2014
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    Military Press
    95 x 10
    135 x 5
    165 x 5
    195 x 2
    210 x 6
    190 x 9

    Speed Bench
    135 x 10
    225 x 3 x 9

    Cable Lateral Raise
    50 x 10
    70 x 10
    60 x 10
    50 x 12

    DB Rear Delt Row
    50 x 10
    60 x 10
    60 x 10

    Felt pretty shitty today. Weight is down to 198. Gonna start adding in 50 - 75 grams carbs post workout; I'm just getting too flat/depleted and it's starting to affect my performance. I'd like to be around 205 fully carbed before my meet.
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    *cough* PM *cough*
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    Loving that 3x9 of 225 for speed bench. That's a strong set for speed. Like the mili's as well... I think you could afford those carbs bro. The way you bust ass I can't see them being too detrimental to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    *cough* PM *cough*

    Try again.
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    You have the numbers of a fatass in ply. That is the most impressive thing imo. I bet if most of the pros cut 10% of there fat and tossed out the gear, they couldn't hang with you in the weight room.

    You're a bitch with the militaries. The progress week to week you have is huge. Especially since you're already above body weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bako Lifter View Post
    You have the numbers of a fatass in ply. That is the most impressive thing imo. I bet if most of the pros cut 10% of there fat and tossed out the gear, they couldn't hang with you in the weight room.

    You're a bitch with the militaries. The progress week to week you have is huge. Especially since you're already above body weight.
    Lol. Thanks man.

    I have nothing against guys that use gear, I have a couple friends that compete in multi-ply, but I'm not going to lie, it is annoying watching guys at meets hit 700 pound squats and 500 pound benches thinking they're strong as shit, when I know I absolutely destroy them raw.
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    Dimel Deads
    135 x 10
    225 x 10
    275 x 5
    315 x 5
    385 x 8

    Behind the Back Shrugs
    225 x 10
    315 x 12
    315 x 12

    Straight Bar Cable Rows
    150 x 10
    180 x 5
    210 x 5
    250 x 5
    280 x 10

    EZ-Bar Curls
    80 x 10
    100 x 10
    120 x 10

    Light day today, giving my back some rest. I know Dimel Deads are usually higher reps; I was just kinda playing around getting a feel for it with heavier weight. I do really like them and plan on throwing them in much more often, really hits the parts of my posterior chain that are lacking the most. I still feel like my hams are lagging a lot and if I can bring them up my squat and dead should really take off.
    Last edited by Invain; 08-31-2012 at 05:00 PM.
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    A 700lbs squat (raw, single or multi ply) is still strong. Two different games boys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chubrock View Post
    A 700lbs squat (raw, single or multi ply) is still strong. Two different games boys.
    This. Can't compare the two. A 700 pound squatter in multi ply with a 450-500 pound raw squat might not have your strength getting out of the hole, but his lockout power is likely tremendous. It's a different sort of lifting- can't just toss on the gear and magically add on 200 pounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chubrock View Post
    A 700lbs squat (raw, single or multi ply) is still strong. Two different games boys.
    Quote Originally Posted by Alex.V View Post
    This. Can't compare the two. A 700 pound squatter in multi ply with a 450-500 pound raw squat might not have your strength getting out of the hole, but his lockout power is likely tremendous. It's a different sort of lifting- can't just toss on the gear and magically add on 200 pounds.
    I agree, to a certain extent. There's definitely technique involved, and like you said Alex, most guys aren't going to jump into a suit for the first time and hit huge numbers. Given a few months to get used to it, however, and things are different.

    I'm not trying to offend anybody, I have all the respect in the world for somebody with 800 pounds on their back or 600 pounds over their chest, it's just not my thing.
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    Bench
    135 x 10
    135 x 10
    225 x 5
    275 x 5
    315 x 2
    355 x 1
    385 x 1
    425 x 1
    435 x 1
    400 x 2
    ~Wide Grip~
    285 x 14

    Reverse Grip Pushdowns
    50 x 10
    70 x 5
    90 x 5
    110 x 6
    90 x 10
    70 x 10

    Pretty epic today. Wasn't really planning on real heavy singles but 385 was so fucking fast I just couldn't resist. Absolutely no pain. I'll prolly go for an all out max attempt a week or two before my meet, I'll make sure to get it on video when I do.
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    Pussy weight.

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    So is 435 a PR or is your sig not updated because you're a lazy DA????????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Invain View Post
    Pretty epic today.
    No joke, enormous benching!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bako Lifter View Post
    Pussy weight.
    I take shits bigger than you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Invain View Post
    Lol. Thanks man.

    I have nothing against guys that use gear, I have a couple friends that compete in multi-ply, but I'm not going to lie, it is annoying watching guys at meets hit 700 pound squats and 500 pound benches thinking they're strong as shit, when I know I absolutely destroy them raw.
    Id watch that comment with at least half of us around here that wear gear...lol

    That benching is serious. Anything in the mid 4's has to be some sort of RAW record. Check it out.
    2000 or bust

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumprrp View Post
    Id watch that comment with at least half of us around here that wear gear...lol

    That benching is serious. Anything in the mid 4's has to be some sort of RAW record. Check it out.
    I checked out the APF Raw records this morning. 198 Bench was around 440. I am definitely gunning for that. 198 Total record was like 1630. I wouldn't be surprised if somebody has already broken that and they just haven't updated their records. If not, I'm pretty confident I could already break that record if I had a meet this week. 198 dead was 705 so that's out of reach for now, and squat was right around 600.
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    Do any other fed's go around your area?

    Some are pretty delayed at updating but RPS (the one i compete in mostly) is pretty quick. It really does suck when you set a record one meet and 2 weeks later its broken by 5 pounds lol.
    2000 or bust

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    Yeah there's other feds but I don't feel like paying for more than 1 membership when I only compete a few times a year, and I have to lift in something that is untested obviously.
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    Squats
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    135 x 10
    225 x 5
    315 x 2
    405 x 2
    455 x 1
    ~Light Wraps~
    520 x 4

    High Bar ATF Squat
    385 x 5 - so tired, fuck this

    Seated DB Curl
    30 x 10
    45 x 5
    55 x 8
    55 x 7
    45 x 10

    Felt really good today. Actually thought I had 510 on the bar, but I forgot the thicker bar I use to squat is 55 pounds. Wanted to get a little volume in with high bar squats but my legs were fucking toast after 520 x 4.
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    Strong squatting man.

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    Looking on point with the super squats!

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    Thanks guys.
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    Seated Shoulder Press
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    165 x 5
    190 x 5
    225 x 7

    Speed Bench
    240 x 3 x 9

    DB Rear Delt Row
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    60 x 6
    70 x 6
    70 x 6

    Reverse Grip Pushdowns
    50 x 10
    80 x 5
    110 x 7
    90 x 10
    70 x 10
    Best lifts: 615/475/660, Raw w/ Wraps
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    How close to 550 do you think you can get? 520x4 has to be close.
    21 - 5'11'' - 190 lb
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    Current PR's - Deadlift 319 | Full Chins 34 | 1 Mile - 7:20 | 1.5 mile - 11:55 (Tread)| 2 mile - 17:55
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