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    Bulk "cycling.."

    Read about this in a few different places, basically the idea is to really lift hard and eat as much as possible (as usual) for 2 weeks then take a "maintenance" week in which you don't lift as hard and eat just regular. Then the next week when you start hittin it hard, your body is shocked and jumps weight even more. What do u think?

    I'll let u know how it works for me
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    No one has any opinion eh..
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    Better to stay consistent. Your body isn't going to magically put on more weight. Weight is simply calories. Take in more then you burn and you will add weight. Simple as that.
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    Yes of course but you have to admit that it is true that when you are trying to gain, if you don't continually and significantly increase the amount of calories, then you tend to stall and weight gain slows to a crawl. Probably I will be told to just increase calories. But this sounded like a SOMEwhat meritorious idea, in that it follows a "one step forward, 2 steps back" philosophy. Because isn't it also true, that when you first start a bulk, you jump in bodyweight right away? and as long as you don't lose too much weight in the "maintenance" phase, then you will keep going up (theoretically). This is how I see it. I need more arguments to convince me that I'm rong though. Anyone else?
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    Lyle's UD2.0 uses a similar approach for bulking. The first 3 days are maintenance or higher, then day 4-5 is the loading zone, where you eat almost 2x a much as normal, then return to maintenance for 6-7. It repeats every week. Of course he goes into much greater detail, but I couldn't tell you what the advantage to doing this is.

    I also read an article recently about David Henry, an amateur that recently turned pro. He eats slightly above maintenance Monday-Thursday, and then gorges on the weekend Friday-Sunday. He claimed that this is beneficial but again I failed to see why.

    EDIT: Here's the article: http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...22/ai_n6108186

    I found it interesting that he competes at ~3%, yet only goes to ~7% in the off-season. He claims that he's always been a hard-gainer.

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    Thanks for that article.

    Its the same basic idea, just with different periods of time. As I said, I have yet to see how it works for me, but I would attribute success with this program to some sort of metabolic "shock" that occurs when massive amounts of calories are suddenly introduced, just as with someone just starting a bulk. The idea is taking advantage of this period of rapid growth. And in theory, why shouldn't it work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hardgainer169
    Thanks for that article.

    Its the same basic idea, just with different periods of time. As I said, I have yet to see how it works for me, but I would attribute success with this program to some sort of metabolic "shock" that occurs when massive amounts of calories are suddenly introduced, just as with someone just starting a bulk. The idea is taking advantage of this period of rapid growth. And in theory, why shouldn't it work?
    He also forgot to mention that he uses more drugs then a crack addict.

    Bulk Cycling is certainly a good idea and there are a lot of good arguements for it.

    1. Keeps hormones in check. Cutters have their "refeeds" and their "cheat days," to keep the hormones from going into a starvation mode.
    2. Avoids unnecessary calories. Unnecessary calories are unnecessary calories.... You used 3000 calories and you ate 3001 calories. Some of that 1 calorie is more than likely going to go to fat. What makes this any different in off days? All you can eat bulking does not make sense. Long story short, avoid unnecessary fat gain.
    3. Calorie partioning gets worse with bodyfat %'s over 15%. Lyle McDonald recommnds most reasonable trained bulkers get in the 12-15% bodyfat range before beginning their bulk eating.

    All you can eat bulking is antiquated at best.
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    Hmm. That is the first time I have heard that. I wonder how many on here use an eating routine like this. I am assuming you do?
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    I would just stick to your routine bro, this will probably have to be interrupted several times a year anyway due to holidays etc.

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