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The Five Biggest Contradictions in Fitness

Itís no secret that when people contradict themselves, it has the effect of making the flaws in their actions or statements seem glaringly obvious. But what about when WE ourselves get caught contradicting ourselves by someone else?

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    need a belt for deads?

    who uses them for deads? and when and why?

    i usually dont do deads cause my lower back and im scared of screwing it up. i did them today and once again a sore lower back... maybe its a good sore?

    i only feel deads work my lower back and thats it??? is this right?

    i use good form, straight back; bending at hips. no bouncing, stopping at bottom.

    any advice please,

    thanks
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    Maybe a good personal trainer can teach you to do deads.

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    Deads work a lot of different muscles, you should also feel it in your legs. As far as a belt goes, it doesn't necessarily protect your back on its own, but it does help you to push the belly out to keep your torso tight and stable.

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    I use them for heavy sets. Generally sets of 3 reps and under maybe for a set of 5 if I'm going really heavy.

    Can't really comment on your form... Post up a video of yourself deadlifting or get someone who knows how to do them to show you proper form.
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    I don't use one. I'm afraid if I do I'll feel overconfident, pull too heavy, and really screw myself up.
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    I do 1 RMs regularly and I don't use one.

    OP: Why don't you do deads if you are confident your form is correct?

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    Because he says his lower back gets sore, which there ARE muscles there that can become sore. If you're pulling too much, I can definitely see some lower back soreness early on.

    Kind of hard to critque yourself though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by someoneunlikeyo

    i only feel deads work my lower back and thats it??? is this right?

    i use good form, straight back; bending at hips. no bouncing, stopping at bottom.
    I used to have the exact same problem. Until I watched lots and lots of proper deadlift form videos (many of which you can find links to on this site). Trust me its your form, a deadlift shouldn't hurt unless you're using poor form or have some pre existing physical injury. Try recording yourself on a digital camera and reviewing it right after you do the lift. It comes easier to some than others but keep trying to get it. (I'm one of those who it didn't come easy to but now you couldn't pay me to give them up) good luck.

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    ohhh god, my lower back is killing me... no more deads until i can get someone to watch me or tape it or something

    thanks
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    Keep your lower back arched and tight, breathe into your belly and push your abs out when you pull. THis will protect your back. It should feel sore.

    Use a belt if you want, but don't think it will protect your back, that's not what it's for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drew
    Keep your lower back arched and tight, breathe into your belly and push your abs out when you pull. THis will protect your back. It should feel sore.

    Use a belt if you want, but don't think it will protect your back, that's not what it's for.
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    Remember, chest out and shoulders back, that will help keep your back arched tightly.

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    Maybe use slightly less weight, do more reps, strengthen your lower back while gaining better form. One of the biggest mistakes people make is using too much weight and shooting their form all to hell. Not saying you're doing this, but I see it all the time.

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    When I first started to do deadlifts, I felt like my back wasn't really in the right place when I lifted. I looked up the proper form and wore a belt and it really helped concentrate on keeping my shoulders back and focus on breathing. Your back could be sore for awhile if you've just started doing them, but eventually you won't have pain(or DOMS)...your back will be just really tired.
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